Dr. MID-Nite Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Haley is far behind Trump in polls of Republican voters, but her poll numbers have been rising pretty steadily while those of the other also-rans have declined or flatlined. Haley is close to Ron DeSantis in aggregate poll numbers, and has beaten him in a number of polls. (See recent polling results.) If Donnie's troubles with the law render him unable to run in the primaries, Nikki is in a strong position to take the Republican nomination. Nikki Haley would be an obvious improvement over Donald Trump in terms of competence, but with all she's said and done I still don't want her anywhere near the Oval Office. She's anti human rights and a climate change denier. I'd like her to climb back under her rock and let the adults actually take care of things. Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 41 minutes ago, Dr. MID-Nite said: She's anti human rights and a climate change denier. I'd like her to climb back under her rock and let the adults actually take care of things. No one's defending her policies. Trump has every flaw she's got...and every flaw every Republican candidate has, pretty much...and more besides. Trump's *proven* he has no scruples, that his only interest is his self-interest, and that the rule of law means nothing to him. ANY of the Republican candidates winning would be bad...but Trump would be many steps worse. The first step in *maybe* bringing the Republican Party back to something tolerable, is getting Trump permanently removed as a power figure. It isn't sufficient, but IMO it's necessary. Grailknight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, unclevlad said: No one's defending her policies. Trump has every flaw she's got...and every flaw every Republican candidate has, pretty much...and more besides. Trump's *proven* he has no scruples, that his only interest is his self-interest, and that the rule of law means nothing to him. ANY of the Republican candidates winning would be bad...but Trump would be many steps worse. The first step in *maybe* bringing the Republican Party back to something tolerable, is getting Trump permanently removed as a power figure. It isn't sufficient, but IMO it's necessary. Admittedly far right Nikki Haley would be a better outcome than the orange guy who openly plans to invoke the Insurrection Act and impose martial law as soon as his hand leaves the Bible. Some posters here would be in real danger of being forced into a concentration camp, summarily executed, or both. Dr.Device 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 11 hours ago, unclevlad said: No one's defending her policies. Trump has every flaw she's got...and every flaw every Republican candidate has, pretty much...and more besides. Trump's *proven* he has no scruples, that his only interest is his self-interest, and that the rule of law means nothing to him. ANY of the Republican candidates winning would be bad...but Trump would be many steps worse. The first step in *maybe* bringing the Republican Party back to something tolerable, is getting Trump permanently removed as a power figure. It isn't sufficient, but IMO it's necessary. Oh...I wasn't suggesting anyone is defending her. I'm just venting as it seems like there are no good candidates anymore....sigh. Starlord 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 But Trump is going to do anything Haley might do...indirectly. We've got the story of pre-vetting every major appointee, and many of them will have one or more specific, negative agendas they'll push. Trump won't slow down ANY of them. And Trump is even more likely, IMO, to retaliate against anyone and everyone who criticizes him. I think another term for him...more than any other Republican...will see a major rise in hate-related violence across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Henry Kissinger, American diplomat and Nobel winner, dead at 100 Dr.Device and Old Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Made it to triple digits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 May he rest in peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anthony-bourdain-henry-kissinger-2001-comments_n_6567dd14e4b066e398b66c87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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unclevlad Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Is there a bottom to the Fox News well of debasement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Well, we all know Fox News anchors are paragons of manliness, so it's not surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, unclevlad said: Is there a bottom to the Fox News well of debasement? Gonna assume this is rhetorical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, unclevlad said: Is there a bottom to the Fox News well of debasement? It goes farther than debasement. Even past desubbasement. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, Old Man said: Gonna assume this is rhetorical Eh, more like an invitation to everyone to snark inventively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Lawnmower Boy and TrickstaPriest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/29/2023 at 6:54 PM, Cygnia said: Henry Kissinger, American diplomat and Nobel winner, dead at 100 L. Marcus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 George Santos Expelled From Congress That's one gone, but there's still a bunch more who were elected twice or more that should never have been elected once. Here's hoping Boebert and Greene follow soon. Pariah, Cygnia and Ternaugh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 What is interesting and disturbing is a) 105 Republicans voted Yes, to expel. That in itself, in this hyper-polarized environment, shows how bad the situation had become. b) 112 voted no...as did 2 Democrats. Yeah, OK, the Freedom Caucus folks looked to be in there, but that's a lot more than just them. And while seeing Boebert and Greene out would be nice...it won't be via this route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 Biden was in Boebert's home district telling them that she voted against the millions of dollars they got from the government for roads and jobs. CES Cygnia and tkdguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, wcw43921 said: George Santos Expelled From Congress That's one gone, but there's still a bunch more who were elected twice or more that should never have been elected once. Here's hoping Boebert and Greene follow soon. When reached for comment afterwards Santos stated, "This was all part of the plan. I was just elected President of Jupiter and to the Baseball Hall of Fame so obviously I can't hold all three offices at the same time." Edited December 1, 2023 by Starlord tkdguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 Hey, I can get behind him as President of Jupiter. Let's make sure he gets to meet his constituents ASAP! Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, unclevlad said: Hey, I can get behind him as President of Jupiter. Let's make sure he gets to meet his constituents ASAP! As long as he appreciates the Gravity of the office wcw43921, Pariah and Starlord 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hermit said: As long as he appreciates the Gravity of the office Well, hey, he'd be used to the Great Red Spot...the storm inside the House chamber is larger...and more consistent..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 34 minutes ago, Hermit said: As long as he appreciates the Gravity of the office Yes, he might be too jovial Ranxerox and Starlord 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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