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10 hours ago, Lord Liaden said:

 

NYT did interviews with, IIRC, about a dozen Congressmen who are leaving office.  A commonly made point was that Congress had become a circus.  

Not like that's a new opinion....

Oh, but guess who's saying she's gonna try to vote Johnson out of office?????  Even tho Jeffries has said the Democrats will vote against ousting him.

 

Elsewhere, 2 Republicans joined with the Democrats to pass the repeal of the Arizona abortion ban.  The governor will be signing it by all indications.  So.......this could be an interesting election season, eh?  THANKFULLY, I'm not going to see many of the ads...maybe a few on national broadcasts of D'backs or Cards games, but that's about it.  This might be the saving grace of the D'backs trying to force me to buy a season pass.

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1 hour ago, Dr. MID-Nite said:

 

In other news, water is wet....

 

I think there's value in reading insights from American expats who know the US from the inside, but are also immersed in perspectives of it from the outside.

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15 hours ago, Lord Liaden said:

 

I think there's value in reading insights from American expats who know the US from the inside, but are also immersed in perspectives of it from the outside.

 

I'm not denying that by any means. My first major trip outside of North America was in 1996. it took me less than 48 hours to realize how monumentally broken American society is. And it's many degrees worse now. I'm just saying how painfully obvious it is. Nothing more.

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For a change of pace political news from across the pond

Councils are being voted for. And the Conservative party have taken a drubbing so far losing over half the seats they held. They also lost a by-election for an MP.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68947838

Boris Johnson was turned away from voting after forgetting photo ID. And this was a measure that he introduced when he was PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68947834

 

We have a general election coming up, so expect to see a change of government here.

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5 hours ago, death tribble said:

For a change of pace political news from across the pond

Councils are being voted for. And the Conservative party have taken a drubbing so far losing over half the seats they held. They also lost a by-election for an MP.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68947838

Boris Johnson was turned away from voting after forgetting photo ID. And this was a measure that he introduced when he was PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68947834

 

We have a general election coming up, so expect to see a change of government here.

 

This has been building for quite some time. I hope it's a sign of an international trend of putting an end to political clown shows.

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I'm not sure whether it would be okay to post this in the Jokes thread, so I decided to put it here.

 

I read somewhere that Franklin Roosevelt once said his favorite joke he had heard about himself was the one about the businessman who would always buy a newspaper at the train station each day.  He'd take one glance at the front page and then toss it aside before boarding the train into the city.

 

One day, the news vendor asked him, "Why do you buy the paper just to look at the front page, and then get rid of it?"

 

The businessman said, "I'm looking for an obituary."

 

"But the obituaries are somewhere in the middle of the second section of the paper," said the news vendor.

 

"Not the one I'm looking for," said the businessman.

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Mike Johnson 359, Marjorie Taylor Greene 43.

 

Greene's attempt to unseat the Speaker gets blown out of the sky;  by that count, I think that says only her contingent backed her.  The actual vote was taken on whether to table the motion to vacate, so a Yes was for Johnson.  Final counts
Rep:  196 yes, 11 no

Dem:  163 yes, 32 no

 

So ONLY 11 voted with Greene.  I saw Biggs, Gosar, Roy...but Boebert, for example, voted against.

 

I don't want to read too much into this, WRT the Greene faction losing support generally.  Not this late into election season.  Scary, huh, but election day is 6 months to the day, from yesterday.  Another massive clown show before the summer recess is NOT!!!! what sane Republicans want.

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I'm willing to read more into this. Mike Johnson has taken steps to marginalize the MAGA faction in the House, to render them impotent. But to do that he had to ally with the Democrats. Which means he'll need to continue to cooperate with them to some extent, to maintain his Speakership. Meanwhile MTG and her allies look increasingly ineffectual to their supporters. We'll have to see what these optics ultimately translate to ballot-wise.

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McCarthy was playing to the MAGA faction, trying to keep them on his side so he could present the impression of a unified GOP. Johnson recognizes that if he attempted that, he'd be chasing the fringe's loony agenda which would never pass the Senate and/or the President's desk, and Republicans in Congress would have no accomplishment to sell to voters. On top of that, the Republicans' majority has shrunken to a razor's edge, so they have no guarantee they could pass anything without compromising with Democrats.

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