Tjack Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 If you're looking for a modern version of Doc Savage, be happy. MGM Studios is readying a TV series for Buckaroo Banzai that will be helmed someone who truly loves the movie...Kevin Smith. He may not be the perfect action movie director, but I'll take someone who has respect for the material over somebody who just doesn't get it. Besides, no one was sure of Joss Whedon directing The Avengers and that turned out pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCold Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 One problem I see with this that many if not most of Doc's foes were of the Scooby Doo variety save for the obligatory Nazis. Maybe the Rock's voice will be dubbed by Benedict Cumberbatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Originally the "Mary Sue" was an author injecting herself into a book with a proxy, a character that was all the stuff she wished she was and could never be, smart, pretty, strong, always right, loved by all the boys, admired by all the girls, etc, etc. I guess its becoming just the overly competent hero now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 If by overly competent you mean "capable of everything the plot ever demands, and always better at it than anyone else in the story," then yeah, the shoe fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shadow Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Some years ago I found an app that determined if your character was a Mary Sue by the answers you gave to a few dozen questions. I was intrigued so I ran a number of well known fictional heroes through it. They all came up as Mary Sues. Jim Kirk, Spock, Batman, Superman, James Bond etc, etc, etc. All Mary Sues! So if Doc Savage is a Mary Sue he's in good company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Yeah the term is being watered down to just mean "someone more capable than I like" almost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 We have had so many stories about a "new" "Doc Savage" movie that I am inclined to use a quote from an old movie ("The Crimson Pirate") "Your humble servant will believe it when your humble servant sees it "t describe my attitude to this latest announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukuli Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 If by overly competent you mean "capable of everything the plot ever demands, and always better at it than anyone else in the story," then yeah, the shoe fits. Umm, can we say Pulp hero? Outrageously competent is in the job description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukuli Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 If by overly competent you mean "capable of everything the plot ever demands, and always better at it than anyone else in the story," then yeah, the shoe fits. Umm, can we say Pulp hero? Outrageously competent is in the job description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Agreed. Especially since the pulps were dominated by solo heroes who had to get themselves out of all those sticky situations. However, this becomes awkward for a modern screenwriter faced with writing a script for a lead hero and five sidekicks who are outclassed by the hero in every way. Don't be surprised if this Doc's fabulous five are better than him in their particular areas of expertise, transforming him from pulp-era Mary Sue to modern-era Well-rounded But Imperfect Hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I fully expect him to be capable but outshined by his rainbow coalition of sidekicks by the time Hollywood is done with them, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothere Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 I read one Shadow story. Thinking crooks were going to break into a really advanced safe, he wanted to brake into it first. The safe is described as so complex that only two people in the city had any hope of breaking into it. The Shadow got into it, and then waited for the crooks. One of the crooks was one of the two previously mentioned people. He got in, but took ten minutes longer than the Shadow. Pulp heroes main trait has always been being ridiculously competent. Tarzan wrestles gorillias and aligators The odd thing about Doc Savage is like most top tier pulp heroes, he can do practicly anything better than most people in the world, but he travels with five men who are able to match Doc in each of their fields. So how much of a Mary Sue he'll come off will largely depend on how much his aides are given to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted June 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Well--apart from Ralph Hinkley, no one wants their heroes to be incompetent. (And I was not a fan of Ralph Hinkley.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjack Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 I was a big fan of Greatest American Hero back in the day, based my first and most beloved Champions character on the idea of Bill Maxwell getting the suit and am currently sporting a tattoo of the symbol on my right arm. So smile when you say that cowboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 there are more unlikely actors to play Doc Savage Reese Witherspoon for example [no disrespect intended] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothere Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Woody Allen played James Bond. Now he returns as DOC SAVAGE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 there are more unlikely actors to play Doc Savage Reese Witherspoon for example [no disrespect intended] But could she play his cousin Pat ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 That could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjack Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Pat Savage should have been played by Raquel Welch during that Fathom/Hannie Caulder era of the mid-to late '60's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 So...I was watching the pre-vue for Ghost Busters...when it Hit me. Doc Sav is a Girl, and so are the whole team! Yes! Something this original will win awards! Maybe that Mc Carthy lady is available...and that tall South African actress...Soon I will Rule Hollywood! Muh ha ha ha!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starblaze Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Some racial diversity could work too. I can imagine Renny (one of my favorite characters) being a black with huge fists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjack Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 While I don't have a problem with a racially diverse cast in movies and casting Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury has been fantastic and I have high hopes for Denzel Washington in the Yul Brenner role in Mag. 7, changing race or gender on a character just for the hell of it doesn't seem right. An update of Doc Savage with the decendants of Doc & the team might be a lot easier to write and could use whatever actors worked best in the roles. Although I don't think a female version of Monk would be a great idea, someone of a different racial background or even orientation could still work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJoe3 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Some racial diversity could work too. I can imagine Renny (one of my favorite characters) being a black with huge fists. Idris Elba as Ham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjack Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 B. Cumberbach as Ham Brooks III. I always liked idea of one of the next generation characters being Hispanic because of the marriage of one of the originals to a native of Hidalgo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 was Dwayne Johnson baptized as Doc Savage when he was a baby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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