DasBroot Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Problem is there wouldn't be much of a show if every cold open ended with 'back us up and launch a probe' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Probe? What kind of tac officer are you? Arm photon torpedoes! Nolgroth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Probe? What kind of tac officer are you? Arm photon torpedoes! Ah, so you take the Minbari approach a step further. When meeting a new enemy, show them we are peaceful by pointing all our weapons cocked and loaded at them. If that doesn't just scream peaceful race wanting to talk, what does. Is one of the few major problems I had with B5 back in the day. Who thinks pointing a weapon at someone the first time you meet them will end well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shadow Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 An intelligent one. Yeah I know, they don't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shadow Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Ah, so you take the Minbari approach a step further. When meeting a new enemy, show them we are peaceful by pointing all our weapons cocked and loaded at them. If that doesn't just scream peaceful race wanting to talk, what does. Is one of the few major problems I had with B5 back in the day. Who thinks pointing a weapon at someone the first time you meet them will end well. The Minbari had their gunports open, that's all. The intent was that the other vessel's sensors would see that their weapons were uncharged. Unfortunately the primitive Earth sensors couldn't tell. It was similar to the old practice of firing your cannons to show they were now empty back in the 15th and 16th centuries. A practice that evolved into firing a salute to a neutral's flag. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 The idea being explored there in B5 was that cultural differences can lead to terrible misinterpretations of intent. We extend our hands in greeting without thinking twice about it, but an alien species might misinterpret that as an attack depending on their own cultural history. To the Minbari, opening uncharged gunports was a way of showing they had no hostile intentions--not only were their guns "cold", but the ports were open to demonstrate they weren't being deceptive. The mistake on their part was assuming that Earth Alliance vessels were capable of detecting this and that EA officers were capable of leaping to the correct conclusion. If nothing else, it shows what can happen when a first contact scenario is conducted between two warships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I think meeting an alien species in space for the first time without showing you're strong and able to defend yourself would be patently idiotic. The reaction to assume war was even stupider; who wouldn't be ready to defend themselves upon first meeting an entirely unknown new species? Only a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Star Trek: Discovery scoop: Jonathan Frakes joins as director Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Frakes does pretty well as a director. I wasn't terribly impressed with his acting (or character) but he's a solid director. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Star Trek: Discovery scoop: Jonathan Frakes joins as director That's a small glimmer of hope, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 no the probe is really a red shirt and we see a small portion of this weeks monster/obstacle to deal with's powerthe probe just always seems to enter/get close to areas that are really sensitiveso paint the probes red Problem is there wouldn't be much of a show if every cold open ended with 'back us up and launch a probe' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 the probe just always seems to enter/get close to areas that are really sensitive Are we still talking about Star Trek? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 That's a small glimmer of hope, anyway. Frakes knows his Trek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Frakes does pretty well as a director. I wasn't terribly impressed with his acting (or character) but he's a solid director. That's a small glimmer of hope, anyway. Frakes knows his Trek. Not really hopeful at all. Yes Frakes knows his Trek, but CBS has been clear they are changing the rules and discarding those pesky Trek guidelines to tell edgier stories. Nolgroth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Not really hopeful at all. Yes Frakes knows his Trek, but CBS has been clear they are changing the rules and discarding those pesky Trek guidelines to tell edgier mopier soap opera stories. There. Fixed that for you. Pariah and Spence 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 That doesn't really fly, tho. As Khan pointed out, "We are one big happy Star Fleet."On the other hand: So there actually is contention/conflict within Starfleet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 He's just angry about losing the Ed-209 contract massey and Nolgroth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 There. Fixed that for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 There is a new trailer out and it is listing the show as a Netflix original series. So, I guess I will be checking it out. death tribble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrito Boy Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 There is a new trailer out and it is listing the show as a Netflix original series. So, I guess I will be checking it out. It looks too dark to me. I hate shows that think shadows equal atmosphere. They're almost impossible for me to watch. And then there's what I feel is the overuse of special effects. It just looks cluttered. I'll pass on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Well, if it's on Netflix I'll give it a chance. Hate the Klingons though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeto Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Well, if it's on Netflix I'll give it a chance. Hate the Klingons though. I hate them too. Iuz the Evil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 I hate them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 There is a new trailer out and it is listing the show as a Netflix original series. So, I guess I will be checking it out. It'll be on Netflix outside the US. If you're in the US, you're stuck with the CBS streaming service. I plan to wait until the CBS service fails, then watch it when it finally makes it to US Netflix. Matt the Bruins, massey, Spence and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 It'll be on Netflix outside the US. If you're in the US, you're stuck with the CBS streaming service. I plan to wait until the CBS service fails, then watch it when it finally makes it to US Netflix. If I remember to, that is my take on it. On the other hand, I have watched the recent Comic-Con trailers for the Defenders and for Stranger Things season two. In the first 25 seconds of each of those trailers, I was indescribably more interested than I was at the Star Trek Discovery trailer. Heck, for that matter, there is a new show coming to Netflix (I believe) that could not be more Shadowrun if it tried. Looks kind of cheesy but even with that qualification, it was more interesting than STD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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