Hyper-Man Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 The recent Champions forum thread HELP! Is this power/maneuver combo OP (over powered) started me thinking about a similar setup I had created for John Wick for 6e. Specifically, I started thinking about the END costs in a Heroic level game where STR costs 1 END per 5 points of STR used. So a weapon that has a STR Minimum of 10 means at least 2 END per attack made with it. Now, if the question was involving swinging an HTH weapon like a sword or a staff that seems to make sense. Add in the rules for Multiple Attack (the 6e version of Sweep) and a character making multiple attacks per Phase can very quickly spend more END than their RECovery in less than a TURN. But what about when using Ranged weapons like guns where the STR Minimum doesn't do anything that actually affects damage but is primarily about 'controlling the weapon when fired'? AFAIK, the use of Multiple Attack with a gun still means paying END for all attack attempts. So given a typical 9mm handgun with a 9-10 STR minimum means 2 END per shot fired. And what about Autofire as a Naked Advantage only with guns? Does that still require the 2 END per shot fired? Anyway, to address those concerns I added the following two upgrades to the John Wick build linked to above: 4 Shooting Stances: Reduced Endurance (0 END; Naked Advantage; +1/2) for up to 17 Active Points of STR (8 Active Points); Limited Power - Only for firearm STR Minimums (-1)[Notes: STR normally costs 1 END per 5 STR used in Heroic games. Examples include: C.A.R. System (Center Axis Relock), Weaver Stance and Isosceles Stance.] - END=0 I also upgraded Reduced Endurance to 0 END on the following.17 Quick Fire: Autofire (3 shots; Naked Advantage; +1/4) for up to 60 Active Points of Any Semi-Automatic Weapon of Opportunity, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1) (30 Active Points); OIF (Any Semi-Automatic Weapon of Opportunity; -1/2), Concentration (1/2 DCV; -1/4)[Notes: Autofire imposes an additional +5 STR Minimum to any weapon used. This can be offset by using the Brace Maneuver.] - END=0 Do these seem like overkill? Comments welcome. HM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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