Darren Watts Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Hey all! In case you never check the Kickstarter forum, you should know that Golden Age Champions launched its Kickstarter yesterday, and is already more than 40% funded. Still a long way yet to go, though, and there's a bunch of great stretch goals to hit past the basic funding level (including contributions from the likes of Steve Long, Bruce Harlick, Jason Walters, Mike Surbrook and more!) So, I figured we'd leave that thread for discussion of the campaign itself, and set one up over here to talk about content. LMK what you'd like to know about the book, the setting, the characters, the GM advice, or whatever else you want to know about here. Keep 'Em Flying! dw https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2000633882/darren-wattss-golden-age-champions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 How much of the villain base is "evil Japanese/Germans/Italians", and how much of it is mobsters and Batman style gimmick villains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Thank you for making a thread with this focus. Will there be any mention of what established contemporary Champions characters who also lived during that era were doing? Folks like Cateran and Dr. Yin Wu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Walsh Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Did I miss a reference to page count? I can't find it on the Kickstarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Did I miss a reference to page count? I can't find it on the Kickstarter. Hasn't been edited yet, so I don't have an answer for you. Almost certainly north of 200 pages, depending on layout and similar decisions maybe more like 250-300. If anything gets cut that's worth reading, it'll go into the annex PDF. dw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Will there be any mention of what established contemporary Champions characters who also lived during that era were doing? Folks like Cateran and Dr. Yin Wu? Yup, lots! I've spent a lot of time going over every Champs Universe book to make sure I didn't miss anybody. There are even new writeups of characters who have only had brief mentions before, like Dr. Ka's granddaddy Dr. Twilight and a few Canadians from Scott's Champions of the North. Acroyear II, FenrisUlf and Lord Liaden 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Walsh Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Hasn't been edited yet, so I don't have an answer for you. Almost certainly north of 200 pages, depending on layout and similar decisions maybe more like 250-300. If anything gets cut that's worth reading, it'll go into the annex PDF. dw Nice not to have to stick to a given page count! "Okay, we need to write a 128-pager on this..." isn't always a ton of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 How much of the villain base is "evil Japanese/Germans/Italians", and how much of it is mobsters and Batman style gimmick villains? That's a great question, and I didn't know the answer so I went back and counted. Once again with the caveat that this is *before editing*, the count goes: 12 Germans, 2 Italians, 1 Bulgarian, 9 Japanese, 3 Atlanteans, 10 assorted American criminals, and 2 "alien races" (one of which is actually from here.) FenrisUlf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 That's a great question, and I didn't know the answer so I went back and counted. Once again with the caveat that this is *before editing*, the count goes: 12 Germans, 2 Italians, 1 Bulgarian, 9 Japanese, 3 Atlanteans, 10 assorted American criminals, and 2 "alien races" (one of which is actually from here.) Cool. Crushing Nazis is always fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Yup, lots! I've spent a lot of time going over every Champs Universe book to make sure I didn't miss anybody. There are even new writeups of characters who have only had brief mentions before, like Dr. Ka's granddaddy Dr. Twilight and a few Canadians from Scott's Champions of the North. Cool! Any chance of a glimpse of an occultist named John Fulton who's kind of sleazy but too damn smart? Or other master villains before they became master villains? Dean Shomshak Hugh Neilson and FenrisUlf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Cool! Any chance of a glimpse of an occultist named John Fulton who's kind of sleazy but too damn smart? Or other master villains before they became master villains? Dean Shomshak That does remind me, a pre-Doctor Destroyer Doctor Destroyer. And, if he was old enough, Archmago (I suspect that he got his start in the golden age, but won't be a real threat till the silver age). FenrisUlf and wcw43921 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 What if anything have you included about non-US supers & related stuff? (Yes, I know, pre-editing). (I'm really really grumpy about being madly broke now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 <cough> John Fulton was Archimago's real name. See Creatures of the Night: Horror Enemies for his story, though I don't recall offhand how closely Steve Long kept to that in assembling the CU. Dean Shomshak FenrisUlf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I hope there are background information about the three stages of the Golden Age. Stage 1: Birth of the superhero till the start of World War 2. Stage 2: The entier war years. Stage 3: After the war till the publication of Seduction of the Innocent. Which reminds me...can we have a supplment about the "Dark Age" Of Champions (complete with a Crypt Keeper type character hosting the book)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Do we have any indication of cost of shipping? I'm particularly interested about Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Cool! Any chance of a glimpse of an occultist named John Fulton who's kind of sleazy but too damn smart? Or other master villains before they became master villains? Dean Shomshak Hey Dean! Again, yup! The first part of Chapter 6 is a runthrough of pretty much everybody and everyplace in the CU, though many are only 1 or 2-line mentions. DShomshak and Lord Liaden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 What if anything have you included about non-US supers & related stuff? (Yes, I know, pre-editing). (I'm really really grumpy about being madly broke now). Real-world or new characters? I'll assume the latter and give a similar breakdown to the villains above: 19 Americans (or at least spent most of their time in the US if they came from elsewhere), 6 Brits, 3 Canadians, 2 Russians, and one each from France, China and Gabon. assault 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I hope there are background information about the three stages of the Golden Age. Stage 1: Birth of the superhero till the start of World War 2. Stage 2: The entier war years. Stage 3: After the war till the publication of Seduction of the Innocent. Which reminds me...can we have a supplment about the "Dark Age" Of Champions (complete with a Crypt Keeper type character hosting the book)? Yup! SOTI isn't the cutoff I use - for my purposes, it's when All-Star Comics becomes a western. Hugh Neilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Yup! SOTI isn't the cutoff I use - for my purposes, it's when All-Star Comics becomes a western. Cool, but I think a small segment about the "Dark Age" might be fun. Then again, it could be it's own book. "Dark Age of Champions". Superheroes in the time between the Golden and Silver Age. And, yes there were superpowered individuals. Most supers were police types with mimimum amount of powers, or supernatural beings more intrested in telling stories of cosmic justice then fighting crime (have you ever seen Mr. Crime or the Crypt Keeper fight crooks?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Can I just say that I'm loving the cover? Particularly Bulletproof recreating what I already mentioned was my favorite Golden Age comic cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Can I just say that I'm loving the cover? Particularly Bulletproof recreating what I already mentioned was my favorite Golden Age comic cover. Me too! Storn is the best. If all works out as planned, the interior chapter pages will also be by him, with each being a swipe/homage to a famous GA cover redone with Champs Universe characters. Superman shaking dudes out of a car, Captain Marvel Jr. smashing a stone swastika, maybe a Spirit cover with words written down the side of a tenement building. pinecone, Dr. MID-Nite, assault and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 So, what else would you like to see or know? Any interest in some sample characters being posted, or the new Superhero Archetypes of the period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Need Character Creation Guidelines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Pulp Heroes = Masked Avengers Superheroes = Capes Hmmm... Masks & Capes - The PC's stumble or are guided to a Nazi 5th Column group planning to sabotague Munitions factories and harbours. Connections: The Criminal Underworld - Knowingly or Unknowingly traitors to their country. bubba smith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Need Character Creation Guidelines Umm, can you be a little more specific? Character Creation is pretty much all of chapter 2, and it's over 15k words... dw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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