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I was looking through Ultimate Equipment and once again I was profoundly disappointed with the write ups for modern hand-to-hand weapons. Basically they are all some variant of club, inducing things like hammers which are written as killing attacks in fantasy games.

 

So I am playing in a zombie survival horror game and my PC is using a crowbar as her primary weapon. What stats should it have? I'm thinking it's basically a mace that can be used one or two handed, maybe with an OCV penalty as it is not balanced as a weapon. Anybody got stats for that? Also, what type of fantasy axe would a modern fire axe compare to?

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Cost        Powers

7                 Crowbar: Multipower, 15-points reserve; all slots OAF (-1)

1u               1) Prying: +15 STR; OAF (-1), Only For Prying/Leverage-Based Tasks (-½)

1u               2) Use As A Blunt Instrument: HA +3d6; OAF (-1), Hand-To-Hand Attack (-½)

1u               3) Sharp Prongs: HKA 1d6 (2d6 with STR); OAF (-1)

 

Total Cost: 10-points

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Cost        Powers

7                 Crowbar: Multipower, 15-points reserve; all slots OAF (-1)

1u               1) Prying: +15 STR; OAF (-1), Only For Prying/Leverage-Based Tasks (-½)

1u               2) Use As A Blunt Instrument: HA +3d6; OAF (-1), Hand-To-Hand Attack (-½)

1u               3) Sharp Prongs: HKA 1d6 (2d6 with STR); OAF (-1)

 

Total Cost: 10-points

 

Might the prongs have Reduced Penetration?

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maybe vs a hard armor
but then you just use the screwdriver end
a good 3-4' crowbar would be the modern (short halberd)
add a chopping blade opposite the curved  hook and you have the slayer's weapon

 

Might the prongs have Reduced Penetration?

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Modern axes are meant to be used as tools, not weapons. They would hit really hard, but they aren't balanced to be used in a fight. Swing it once and you immediately over-extend, leaving yourself open.

No, you only over extend if you miss your target.

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I have the odd notion that we should be able to model a crowbar almost purely with skill levels (though needed to look in the rulebook to check current rules)

 

How about

 

Crowbar:  4 overall levels, only to increase damage or with skills that could be enhanced with use of a crowbar (-2), OAF (-1)

 

It potentially looks a bit expensive (12 points) but maybe not for the value...

 

Doc

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Operate a Crow Bar: (Total: 5 Active Cost, 5 Real Cost)

Animal Handler (Birds) 11- (Real Cost: 2)

<b>plus</b>

Fringe Benefit: License to serve alcohol (Real Cost: 1)

<b>plus</b>

Contact: A Scarecrow (to act as bouncer) 11- (Real Cost: 2)

 

Lucius Alexander

 

The palindromedary says my business plan is flawed and I'll end up eating crow

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Operate a Crow Bar: (Total: 5 Active Cost, 5 Real Cost)

Animal Handler (Birds) 11- (Real Cost: 2)

<b>plus</b>

Fringe Benefit: License to serve alcohol (Real Cost: 1)

<b>plus</b>

Contact: A Scarecrow (to act as bouncer) 11- (Real Cost: 2)

 

Lucius Alexander

 

The palindromedary says my business plan is flawed and I'll end up eating crow

 

It gets worse. If you try to gather too many crows into one place you might be charged with attempted murder.

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I have the odd notion that we should be able to model a crowbar almost purely with skill levels (though needed to look in the rulebook to check current rules)

You could, but I'm not clear why you'd want to? Seems easier to just treat it like every other weapon.

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You could, but I'm not clear why you'd want to? Seems easier to just treat it like every other weapon.

 

Well, it was because it is not just a weapon and might be used as a tool to make other tasks easier etc.  That could all be covered by the skill levels...

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OK, I see what you're saying. But I'm thinking most crowbar-related tasks would be STR-based anyway - ie "I'm going to try and open this crate" "OK, roll your STR damage." "I have a crowbar!" "OK, add +3d6." So a STR/damage adder would still work. Seems like maybe we're over-thinking it.

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On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 8:19 AM, IndianaJoe3 said:

 

It gets worse. If you try to gather too many crows into one place you might be charged with attempted murder.

 

Forgive the unkindness, but I think you're raven!

 

Lucius Alexander

 

The palindromedary on the other hand says you know what the flock you're talking about

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