Mr. R Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 So I just read about the update that Green Ronin is doing to the Freedom-verse, especially the new Lady Liberty. So I offer a Book to read, a YA novel called “Dreadnought” by April Daniels. Here read the blurb from Goodreads. I found it enjoyable and a bit thought provoking. Link https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30279514-dreadnought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Starship Troopers (1959) By Robert Heinlein for Powered Armor in combat. The Avengers: Battle of the Earth Eater (1967) By Otto Binder for the superhero team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phydaux Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Soon I Will Be Invincible by Austin Grossman was OK. I like the Wearing the Cape series by M. G. Harmon. Six books in the series so far. A little too teen romance for me sometimes, though. West Pacific Supers series by K. M. Johnson-Weider is very good. Plus the author says on his web site that he borrows greatly from his home Champions campaign. I wish the author would write more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Desmarais Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Starship Troopers (1959) By Robert Heinlein for Powered Armor in combat. The Avengers: Battle of the Earth Eater (1967) By Otto Binder for the superhero team. The Avengers: Battle of the Earth Eater was pretty campy at times. Pocket Books but out a series of Marvel novels in the late 1970s though that were much better than I expected. I read most of these when they came out and would, if I still had them, consider re-reading them. https://www.goodreads.com/series/44439-marvel-novel-series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 The Avengers: Battle of the Earth Eater was pretty campy at times. Pocket Books but out a series of Marvel novels in the late 1970s though that were much better than I expected. I read most of these when they came out and would, if I still had them, consider re-reading them. https://www.goodreads.com/series/44439-marvel-novel-series Otto Binder created Mary Marvel, Supergirl, and Miss America (Madeline Joyce) for Timely/Marvel. The Bridge that Supergirl saved from the Airliner in the Pilot was named after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Kingdom Come by Elliot S. Maggin - The Novelization of the Graphic Novel with more details of the future DC World. Miracle Monday by Elliot S. Maggin - A Superman novel that introduced Kristin Wells who would be the Bronze Age Superwoman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Starship Troopers (1959) By Robert Heinlein for Powered Armor in combat. . Great book. But be careful of the version. I got into a discussion with a friend and we had completely different takes on several parts of the book. When he pulled out his copy he was right. I was sure I was losing my memory. When I went home and pulled my copy out I discovered I had remembered right. Later we compared books, my 1979 print and his from 1987. There are subtle but significant changes that completely change the story. The 2016 copy I bought is even further away from the original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 I'm sorry Spence but I like the movie. It cannot be bad. It has Michael Ironside in it. And as it is a Paul Verhoeven film it has the delicious black humour. Would you like to know more ? as the film says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Nobody is talking about the Wild Cards series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Good point. I have the first ten. The Wild Card Universe primarily takes place in New York following a viral outbreak that takes place in the late 40s. The first book gives a bit of history and introduces many major recurring characters. Would You Like To Know More ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 +1 for Wild Cards. -1 for Verhoeven's Starship Troopers movie. As a dark humor satire of military sci-fi it has watchable moments intermixed with moments of utter stupidity. As an adaptation of Heinlein's novel, it is an atrocious hatchet job. @Spence: I had no idea the book had been altered by publishers. Who in the hell approved that? Surely not REH himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Wild Cards series was hit and miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 I'm sorry Spence but I like the movie. It cannot be bad. It has Michael Ironside in it. And as it is a Paul Verhoeven film it has the delicious black humour. Would you like to know more ? as the film says. Well I guess it is because I hate "bait and switch". The movie eas billed AS Heinlein's Starship Troopers. Not as something that vaguely borrowed a few names. It keeps trying to get a pass itself as a parody. The problem is that Veer'idiot never read the book and his perception of it and anyone military eas in of itself a parody of reality. So he essentially is saying "I make a parody of a parody". Now as a mindless bughunt by keystone cops like imbeciles with the mental abilities of dead snails it was an entertaining blow'em up. But it had nothing to do with Starship Troopers. Heck, the bugs were as technology advanced as we were and used starships. They didn't fart across interstellar distances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 @Spence: I had no idea the book had been altered by publishers. Who in the hell approved that? Surely not REH himself. No real idea. But since then I have been noticing that a lot of the classics seem to be changing. Apparently they are "fixing them" to meet modern expectations. Luckily I have an extensive library of hardcopy books printed pre-2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Nobody is talking about the Wild Cards series? I remember liking the first 4 or 5 books and then it went off edge and I lost interest. Great concept but pushed far beyond the writers ability to keep coming up with good ideas. At least I thought so but YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 No real idea. But since then I have been noticing that a lot of the classics seem to be changing. Apparently they are "fixing them" to meet modern expectations. Luckily I have an extensive library of hardcopy books printed pre-2000. Is there an easy way to tell from examining a copy that it is the original text? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phydaux Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 a YA novel called “Dreadnought” by April Daniels. Normally I'd be all over this, but I just can't get past the transexual elements. If you're looking for YA I'll toss out another series - Please Don't Tell My Parents I'm a Supervillain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 A web serial I am currently enjoying is called Super Powered by Drew Hayes. http://www.drewhayesnovels.com He has a few successful self published works in the fantasy and superhero genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 How to be a Superhero by Doctor Metropolis It's a guide to superhero archetypes, how to meet the right villain, and a quiz on how evil you might be for villains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zen Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 I liked the Wild Cards books #1-7, 10-12. But as time went on, it just became more and more depressing. There were no real "heroes" and it seemed to embody everything I did not enjoy about the Dark Age of comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zen Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 I found "Soon I Will Be Invincible" by Austin Grossman to be enjoyable. It is from the villain's point of view and you get to see the plotting of world conquest from the other side of the street. "The Avengers and the Thunderbolts" by Pierce Askegren. This was not an adaptation of published comics, but an actual story featuring both teams. I was a big fan of both groups and enjoyed this one. "X-Men and Avengers: Gamma Quest" by Greg Cox.was a decent story, but too me continues the unfortunate X-Men and Avengers fight each other and then the main foe and the Avengers decide that "Mutants are A-okay!" It happens a few times in the comics, which seemed to indicate that each time the two groups met, something erased the Avengers memories and they had to learn to accept the X-Men all over again each time. Strange for a group that had at least 3 mutants on its roster. Superman: Last Son of Krypton" by Elliot S! Maggin which came out about the time of the first Christopher Reeve movie. It was another origin story for Kal-El but had a interesting idea of the ship searching out the best person on Earth to raise young Kal and it could be a certain physicist teaching at Princeton in the 1940s and 50s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusterBoy Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 I really enjoyed Grossman's Soon I Will Be Invincible because of the perspective-flip nature of the story telling and the fact we've got ahighy dysfuctional superteam which is clearly pat its heyday. The fact that the team has its own email address is a neat touch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arc Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Devil's Cape by Rob Rogers and the Miranda Contract by Ben Langdon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrito Boy Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 +1 for Wild Cards. -1 for Verhoeven's Starship Troopers movie. As a dark humor satire of military sci-fi it has watchable moments intermixed with moments of utter stupidity. As an adaptation of Heinlein's novel, it is an atrocious hatchet job. @Spence: I had no idea the book had been altered by publishers. Who in the hell approved that? Surely not REH himself. I know you meant RAH but I would seriously love to read a version of Starship Troopers written by Robert E. Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 I know you meant RAH but I would seriously love to read a version of Starship Troopers written by Robert E. Howard. LOL...I've been rereading Conan and running 2d20 Conan. I think it just kinda slipped in.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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