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If Obi-Wan and Yoda are anything to go by, the preordained career path for a top-tier Jedi master is to go to some secluded planet, become a recluse into old age, eventually train a young hero for a day or two, and then pass away in a moment of complete Force Enlightenment. Luke is merely conforming to proper Star Wars tradition.

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I've decided to declare all of the movies after Return of the Jedi as non-canon. I'm also declaring Ewoks as non-canon and renaming them Dwarf Wookies.

 

Edit: I can see Christopher has no sense of humor when it comes to Star Wars. Sith detected! :nya:

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35 minutes ago, Pattern Ghost said:

I've decided to declare all of the movies after Return of the Jedi as non-canon. I'm also declaring Ewoks as non-canon and renaming them Dwarf Wookies.

 

I've decided to declare all of the movies after Star Wars as non-canon... ( :D )

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31 minutes ago, Starlord said:

The backlash backlash will occur after a petition to ban backlashes and a petition to ban petitions and prior to the overreaction to the backlash backlash.

 

And all of it is non-canon. 

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It would be nice to have a new trilogy be about something new, not a rehash of jedi-vs-sith, empire-vs-rebellion.  An outside threat(maybe not the Yuuzhan Vong, but perhaps an extragalactic menace that unites the galaxy to fight them).  A storyline with smaller stakes(fighting a criminal syndicate or pirates, ala the Empire at War expansion).  Even a murder mystery would be a nice change of pace.  Or just a trilogy about a conspiracy to start a new war, and a desperate effort to find out who's behind it and put it to a stop.  

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Maybe a rift within the New Republic that threatened to tear it apart before it even got started would have been potentially interesting. No need for some Empire 2.0 as an external threat. Just seeing Luke, Leia, Han, and company struggling to keep the New Republic together, perhaps with the Sith stirring the pot and forcing Luke to "bring balance" to the Force by training new Jedi to help keep the new peace that will last another thousand generations.

 

The problem with the above scenario is that it's not cynical enough, not "realistic" enough for today's directors (like Rian Johnson) who would rather blow apart institutions like the Jedi Order, depicting them as outdated and corrupt, than allow them to regain their former glory as guardians of light in the universe.

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14 hours ago, zslane said:

Maybe a rift within the New Republic that threatened to tear it apart before it even got started would have been potentially interesting. No need for some Empire 2.0 as an external threat. Just seeing Luke, Leia, Han, and company struggling to keep the New Republic together, perhaps with the Sith stirring the pot and forcing Luke to "bring balance" to the Force by training new Jedi to help keep the new peace that will last another thousand generations.

Apparently stuff like this is already in the backstory:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/New_Republic#Concord_with_the_Empire

 

It is a pitty those parts are never properly explored outside of the books.

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It's "Star Wars", so I don't think political intrigue or a murder mystery would fit.  You need a war of some kind.

 

I'd say Force Awakens should have had a fat and happy New Republic get blindsided by the pissed off remnants of the Empire.  It would make sense that Luke had gone off to his island if he thought everything was taken care of.  Yeah, his apprentice turned to the Dark Side and ran off, but that's not a threat to galactic peace.

 

So you have a big Pearl Harbor ambush where the First Order just comes out of nowhere and smashes the good guys' fleet.  The rest of the movie is people scrambling and trying to form some kind of resistance.

 

Last Jedi could be Rey being trained by Luke, Leia's portion of the Resistance fleet (so there's still more out there) fleeing First Order pursuers, and Finn and Poe finding out about a secret super-weapon the First Order intends to build -- the Starkiller Base.  You add in a Leia death scene in post production when Carrie Fisher dies.  Go ahead and have Rey and Kylo Ren (who had good chemistry together) kill Snoke (who needs a different name) and take over the First Order.  Rey falls for the "we can make it all better" line.

 

Third movie is Luke sensing Leia's death and coming out of retirement to unite the remnants of the New Republic military.  The fleet leads a pre-emptive attack on Starkiller Base to try and wipe it out, while Luke decides he's not going to lose yet another apprentice, and goes to confront Kylo Ren and try to save Rey.  Luke sacrifices himself Obi-Wan style to show Rey that Kylo is too far gone, then she turns back good and defeats him.

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I guess this just goes to show that some folks never tire of a Big Bad Empire (of some kind) always being the main antagonist in the Star Wars universe. In my view, that along with the endless varieties of planet killers they concoct, is why the movies tend to have a monotonous sameness to them. The trick, I think, is to come up with a new plot structure while keeping the core characters intact. Give them new problems to solve, but with a tone and feel and aesthetic that is unmistakenly "Star Wars".

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It would be nice to have a new trilogy be about something new, not a rehash of jedi-vs-sith, empire-vs-rebellion.  An outside threat(maybe not the Yuuzhan Vong, but perhaps an extragalactic menace that unites the galaxy to fight them).  A storyline with smaller stakes(fighting a criminal syndicate or pirates, ala the Empire at War expansion).  Even a murder mystery would be a nice change of pace.  Or just a trilogy about a conspiracy to start a new war, and a desperate effort to find out who's behind it and put it to a stop.  

 

Disney would do better doing Rogue One type movies covering non-main arc type stuff.

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