Pattern Ghost Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Saw it this morning. Boy was this movie filled with unearned moments. Or attempts at moments. Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 If Obi-Wan and Yoda are anything to go by, the preordained career path for a top-tier Jedi master is to go to some secluded planet, become a recluse into old age, eventually train a young hero for a day or two, and then pass away in a moment of complete Force Enlightenment. Luke is merely conforming to proper Star Wars tradition. Hugh Neilson and Christopher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 I've decided to declare all of the movies after Return of the Jedi as non-canon. I'm also declaring Ewoks as non-canon and renaming them Dwarf Wookies. Edit: I can see Christopher has no sense of humor when it comes to Star Wars. Sith detected! Christopher R Taylor and Christopher 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 35 minutes ago, Pattern Ghost said: I've decided to declare all of the movies after Return of the Jedi as non-canon. I'm also declaring Ewoks as non-canon and renaming them Dwarf Wookies. I've decided to declare all of the movies after Star Wars as non-canon... ( ) zslane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Seems reasonable. Bazza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 George Lucas Forever! ( ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Well, as much stupidity that has come through Legends at times, what is canon now can best be described as "WTF Disney WTF" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Bazza said: I've decided to declare all of the movies after Star Wars as non-canon... ( ) I hereby declare all Star Wars movies as non-canon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Thrawn for President! archer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 I declare all William Conrad TV series to be non-Cannon Armory and lemming 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 I declare a catapult a non cannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 They should've just left the puffins in the movie, those damned CGI whatever the hell they're called have done the impossible and made me pine for the days of Jar Jar Binks. Yousa suck, Rian Johnson, yousa suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 When will we get the backlash backlash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 I hereby declare all canon to be non-backlash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 The backlash backlash will occur after a petition to ban backlashes and a petition to ban petitions and prior to the overreaction to the backlash backlash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 31 minutes ago, Starlord said: The backlash backlash will occur after a petition to ban backlashes and a petition to ban petitions and prior to the overreaction to the backlash backlash. And all of it is non-canon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 A blog post on the motivations of Luke Skywalker in TLJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 8.1.2018 at 11:40 AM, Starlord said: Thrawn for President! Eh, they already did that once. Ended up with the first Galactic Empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 It would be nice to have a new trilogy be about something new, not a rehash of jedi-vs-sith, empire-vs-rebellion. An outside threat(maybe not the Yuuzhan Vong, but perhaps an extragalactic menace that unites the galaxy to fight them). A storyline with smaller stakes(fighting a criminal syndicate or pirates, ala the Empire at War expansion). Even a murder mystery would be a nice change of pace. Or just a trilogy about a conspiracy to start a new war, and a desperate effort to find out who's behind it and put it to a stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Maybe a rift within the New Republic that threatened to tear it apart before it even got started would have been potentially interesting. No need for some Empire 2.0 as an external threat. Just seeing Luke, Leia, Han, and company struggling to keep the New Republic together, perhaps with the Sith stirring the pot and forcing Luke to "bring balance" to the Force by training new Jedi to help keep the new peace that will last another thousand generations. The problem with the above scenario is that it's not cynical enough, not "realistic" enough for today's directors (like Rian Johnson) who would rather blow apart institutions like the Jedi Order, depicting them as outdated and corrupt, than allow them to regain their former glory as guardians of light in the universe. Hermit and Bazza 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Ok. There's gonna be lightsabers though, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 14 hours ago, zslane said: Maybe a rift within the New Republic that threatened to tear it apart before it even got started would have been potentially interesting. No need for some Empire 2.0 as an external threat. Just seeing Luke, Leia, Han, and company struggling to keep the New Republic together, perhaps with the Sith stirring the pot and forcing Luke to "bring balance" to the Force by training new Jedi to help keep the new peace that will last another thousand generations. Apparently stuff like this is already in the backstory: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/New_Republic#Concord_with_the_Empire It is a pitty those parts are never properly explored outside of the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted January 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 It's "Star Wars", so I don't think political intrigue or a murder mystery would fit. You need a war of some kind. I'd say Force Awakens should have had a fat and happy New Republic get blindsided by the pissed off remnants of the Empire. It would make sense that Luke had gone off to his island if he thought everything was taken care of. Yeah, his apprentice turned to the Dark Side and ran off, but that's not a threat to galactic peace. So you have a big Pearl Harbor ambush where the First Order just comes out of nowhere and smashes the good guys' fleet. The rest of the movie is people scrambling and trying to form some kind of resistance. Last Jedi could be Rey being trained by Luke, Leia's portion of the Resistance fleet (so there's still more out there) fleeing First Order pursuers, and Finn and Poe finding out about a secret super-weapon the First Order intends to build -- the Starkiller Base. You add in a Leia death scene in post production when Carrie Fisher dies. Go ahead and have Rey and Kylo Ren (who had good chemistry together) kill Snoke (who needs a different name) and take over the First Order. Rey falls for the "we can make it all better" line. Third movie is Luke sensing Leia's death and coming out of retirement to unite the remnants of the New Republic military. The fleet leads a pre-emptive attack on Starkiller Base to try and wipe it out, while Luke decides he's not going to lose yet another apprentice, and goes to confront Kylo Ren and try to save Rey. Luke sacrifices himself Obi-Wan style to show Rey that Kylo is too far gone, then she turns back good and defeats him. BarretWallace and Grailknight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 I guess this just goes to show that some folks never tire of a Big Bad Empire (of some kind) always being the main antagonist in the Star Wars universe. In my view, that along with the endless varieties of planet killers they concoct, is why the movies tend to have a monotonous sameness to them. The trick, I think, is to come up with a new plot structure while keeping the core characters intact. Give them new problems to solve, but with a tone and feel and aesthetic that is unmistakenly "Star Wars". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 It would be nice to have a new trilogy be about something new, not a rehash of jedi-vs-sith, empire-vs-rebellion. An outside threat(maybe not the Yuuzhan Vong, but perhaps an extragalactic menace that unites the galaxy to fight them). A storyline with smaller stakes(fighting a criminal syndicate or pirates, ala the Empire at War expansion). Even a murder mystery would be a nice change of pace. Or just a trilogy about a conspiracy to start a new war, and a desperate effort to find out who's behind it and put it to a stop. Disney would do better doing Rogue One type movies covering non-main arc type stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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