Christopher Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, zslane said: I'm not sure if 100,000 qualifies as "close" to 100,000,000. Once you get past all the technobabble describing transwarp, you only get speeds upwards of about 10e6 x c. Hyperspace travel is still two to three orders of magnitude faster. And hyperdrives aren't even exotic; they are common enough to be installed on single-seat fighters. Voyager used a short Transwarp hop to get from teh Delta Quadrant to Sol in less then 15 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 But ST ships can fight at warp speed, but SW ships can't fight in hyperflight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 42 minutes ago, Christopher said: Voyager used a short Transwarp hop to get from teh Delta Quadrant to Sol in less then 15 minutes. Didn't that require the use of one of the Borg's six transwarp hubs? That's not exactly a commonly accessible transportation technology. And didn't Janeway require help from her future self as well? I don't think very many vessels would be enjoying such short travel times. The ease and speed with which the Empire could hop-and-conquer any ST quadrant via hyperdrive is almost comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, zslane said: Didn't that require the use of one of the Borg's six transwarp hubs? That's not exactly a commonly accessible transportation technology. And didn't Janeway require help from her future self as well? I don't think very many vessels would be enjoying such short travel times. The ease and speed with which the Empire could hop-and-conquer any ST quadrant via hyperdrive is almost comical. Wich is why I said: 2 hours ago, Christopher said: If there is anything even close to Hyperspace speeds in Star Trek, it has to be the Transwarp Network. Maybe Quantum Slipstream comes close as well, but it seems to be considered "inferior" to true Transwarp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 And MOm wonders why people think Sheldon is weird.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 The whole "you nerds are weird" stance is pretty disingenuous coming from anyone who plays RPGs and understands how to willingly engage in the suspension of disbelief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Science-fiction technobabble is still technobabble. It isn't hard physics & engineering right? So the imaginary numbers/magnitude don't matter. Star Wars takes place in a galaxy, Star Trek takes place in a galaxy, Stargate SG-1 primarily takes place in a galaxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Michael Hopcroft said: And MOm wonders why people think Sheldon is weird.... And people wonder why I hate that show. Jagged 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Michael Hopcroft said: And MOm wonders why people think Sheldon is weird.... Ironically, my mother has mentioned more than once that some of the thing Sheldon does on the Big Bang Theory reminds her of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Bazza said: Science-fiction technobabble is still technobabble. It isn't hard physics & engineering right? So the imaginary numbers/magnitude don't matter. I suppose that's true for the most part. However, to the extent to which firm (not hard, not soft, but something in between) numbers can be derived from the source material, it becomes a fun game to calculate and compare the numbers. If you aren't interested in that game, that's fine. You certainly don't have to play along. But is it really so hard to let others play without sh*tting on them for finding it fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Indeed, I find technical journals of the various Sci-Fi starships boring. I am just not mechanically inclined, but others do like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 4 hours ago, zslane said: I suppose that's true for the most part. However, to the extent to which firm (not hard, not soft, but something in between) numbers can be derived from the source material, it becomes a fun game to calculate and compare the numbers. If you aren't interested in that game, that's fine. You certainly don't have to play along. But is it really so hard to let others play without sh*tting on them for finding it fun? *sigh* I was with you until the last part. I like geeking out as much as as any geek -- ask me about the MCU! -- but at the end of the day is is just technobabble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 hours ago, Badger said: Ironically, my mother has mentioned more than once that some of the thing Sheldon does on the Big Bang Theory reminds her of me. does he hate ewoks too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 hours ago, dmjalund said: does he hate ewoks too? heh, I don't know. I think it has more to do with his "eccentricities" that she is taking about on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 True story. My oldest came home one day from high school about 13 years ago and he was visibly upset. I pestered him until he finally revealed the problem, he said "A bunch of the guys think I'm weird." (That revelation was also accompanied by some nasty names). I replied with some advice about not letting others bother you and do your own thing and I finished up with this - Jon, EVERYONE is weird. There is no normal. Weird IS normal. Trust me, EVERYONE, even the most normal acting person there is, probably has a couple Jerry Springer episodes going on in their life at certain times. Feel free to be weird. Grailknight, Michael Hopcroft, Christopher and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Badger said: heh, I don't know. I think it has more to do with his "eccentricities" that she is taking about on that. It is my understanding that Sheldon suffers from Asperger's Syndrome, OCD, and also may have synesthesia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 It is my understanding that the producers write Sheldon as is, but Jim Parsons plays the character as if he has Aspergers. The other eccentricities are probably correct. Plus Sheldon has a good heart and means well, even if it comes off the wrong way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 13 hours ago, Old Man said: And people wonder why I hate that show. "Fear is a natural reaction of moving closer to the truth. Or being ripped to shreds by a giant bug!" 12 hours ago, Badger said: Ironically, my mother has mentioned more than once that some of the thing Sheldon does on the Big Bang Theory reminds her of me. In my cycle of friends, sheldons property are split between me and 2 other people. It is like Starsigns: If you look long enough, you propably find some similarities with everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 L. Marcus, Starlord, Christopher and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 13 hours ago, Bazza said: *sigh* I was with you until the last part. I like geeking out as much as as any geek -- ask me about the MCU! -- but at the end of the day is is just technobabble. A common tactic for shutting down discussion that someone finds absurd is to dismiss it on realism grounds. In this case, the fact that rubber science and techobabble describe things that aren't real gets used to sweep away comparative studies of the respective universes of Star Wars and Star Trek (or Marvel vs. DC, or whatever). You are absolutely correct when you say "it is just technobabble," but what is the goal of pointing that out except to try and convince people to stop playing the comparison game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 15 hours ago, Starlord said: It is my understanding that Sheldon suffers from Asperger's Syndrome, OCD, and also may have synesthesia. Yeah, I do have a bit of OCD on certain things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Has it come to arguing about the speed of travel between franchises ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, death tribble said: Has it come to arguing about the speed of travel between franchises ? That and Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 No-one has mentioned that those bird creatures on the island were put in as there were so many puffins it was easier to morph from a puffin then digitally erase them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 That's a clever improvisation, not a bug. Them infesting the Millenium Falcon was more annoying, but we can always assume Chewbacca found them delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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