unclevlad Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 No, it wasn't targeted at you. I'm fundamentally suggesting it's the root of the problem, tho. "A good percentage of them are on defense" leads to...why are they not on offense? And keep peeling that back, recursively, until you get to the root. That root may well be the classic slur "blacks aren't smart enough to play QB." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 6 hours ago, unclevlad said: Yah, dipping down to a QB coach? He's got minimal experience as a college OC, but that's it. Can't even use the McVay comparison; McVay was OC fro the Redskins for 3 years first. That's a plausible, applicable track record. Still, the SERIOUS head-scratcher is Kliff Kingsbury. https://wtvr.com/2019/01/10/renowned-sportscaster-says-nfl-teams-are-racist-when-it-comes-to-hiring-coaches/ The racist aspect of the owners, well, that's not news. Heard it before, we're gonna keep on hearing it. But Kingsbury's hire is, to say the least, suspect. If he's such a QB whisperer and offensive genius...how did he manage to have a losing record at A&M...with Patrick Mahomes? Minor correction because it concerns my School. Kingsbury was at TAMU but it was as OC under Sumlin with Manziel as QB. He took the HC job at Tech and while he had a losing record, he does have a decent rep as a QB whisperer as he worked with case Keenum(UH), Manziel(TAMU) and Davis Webb,Baker Mayfield and Mahomes at TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 None of whom, had much success on an NFL, until last year. (Keenum). THough, obviously, Mayfield, and Mahomes didn't have the opportunity till this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 QB success is hit or miss. The point in his favor is that he has 5 QB's that are currently in the NFL. I wouldn't have hired him(above QB coach) but the NFL is looking for the hot young offensive minds right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 About a 90 percent chance this'll look foolish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Badger said: None of whom, had much success on an NFL, until last year. (Keenum). THough, obviously, Mayfield, and Mahomes didn't have the opportunity till this year. Wait, what? I grant you the head scratching nature of the hire, but Mahomes is unreal. And Baker Mayfield just set the rookie QB record for TDs. And who else has 5 NFL QBS currently in the NFL from their roster? He's got a legitimately impressive history identifying QB talent at the very least. Whether he's even remotely qualified to be an NFL head coach is a completely different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, Iuz the Evil said: Wait, what? I grant you the head scratching nature of the hire, but Mahomes is unreal. And Baker Mayfield just set the rookie QB record for TDs. And who else has 5 NFL QBS currently in the NFL from their roster? He's got a legitimately impressive history identifying QB talent at the very least. Whether he's even remotely qualified to be an NFL head coach is a completely different matter. I said they didn't have an opportunity till this year (for obvious reasons). JUst saying until there 2 top seasons this year. Kingsbury's NFL success was one year of Keenum. Mahomes and Mayfield will likely be great. But, it does suggest they are trying to pick up on a passing fad (pick up the college QB coach of the top 2 young talents of the year-actual track record of said coach be damned) Iuz the Evil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Interesting little opinion piece out of Detroit: Detroit Lions should trade Matthew Stafford to Denver Broncos tl;dr version: Matthew Stafford and a third-round pick to Denver in exchange for Von Miller and Case Keenum. The Lions gets the final piece to make their defense great, or even elite--and Miller gets away from John Elway , with whom there is apparently some friction right now--along with a serviceable quarterback that's more inline with Matt Patricia's ball-control offensive philosophy. The Broncos get an actual quarterback and an additional piece to build for the future. I think there's precisely zero chance this trade actually happens, but it's interesting to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 My memory is that the Detroit fanbase has been wanting Stafford traded for something good for a long time, entirely ignoring the problem that nobody else is dumb enough to trade anything worth having for Stafford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Yeah, I don't see Stafford as noticeably better than Keenum right now, whereas Miller is still one of the best edge rushers in the game. Although Stafford might be better with a change of scenery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Add in that Miller is not yet 30, so can reasonably be expected to have another 5 very good years. I agree it's hard to tell with Stafford, as big chunks of his numbers have come in garbage time. I can see trading Miller before he leaves, but the contract has 3 more years left. The last 2 are both club-option years, so that's some assurance against a catastrophic injury. Not likely, at Miller's age, that an injury would be career-ending, but it's not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 SO reports are Jags are looking at Kubiak. Well, he does nave a Super Bowl ring as HC, and 2 other very good seasons with the Texans. Still, he's had significant health issues, and of a type that become more likely and more serious with age, I think. (And the only reason your health gets better as you age is if you make significant lifestyle improvements.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 So, any chance today that the Chefs will win their first home playoff game since Bill Clinton was the President? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Hmmm, blizzard conditions might hamper that high-flying KC offense today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, Pariah said: So, any chance today that the Chefs will win their first home playoff game since Bill Clinton was the President? Heh, not as bad as their baseball team who went from Reagan to Obama without a playoff appearance Note: Of course, we all remember how the Cubs went from Roosevelt to Obama without a championship. The first Roosevelt.* Interestingly the Phillies probably had the 2nd longest drought taking 97 years to win their first (in terms of Presidents Arthur to Carter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Starlord said: Hmmm, blizzard conditions might hamper that high-flying KC offense today. - Watches KC easily march right down the field on first two possessions Nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Now there's a freak stat. Luck was 2nd in NFL in TD passes at 39. Mahomes beat him by *11*. That'ls like winning the Indy 500 by 2 laps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 49 minutes ago, Starlord said: - Watches KC easily march right down the field on first two possessions Nevermind. Probably not an issue, but let it play out. The thing about extremely cold weather is it grinds you down. Ground is harder. Eventually everything hurts. Your hands stop working right. I think they'll be fine, but early success in this weather doesn't always play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Talking about Frank Reich, I think I heard them say Josh McDaniels "bailed out at the altar" So, will it be wrong of me, if from now on I refer to Josh McDaniels as "The Runaway Bride"? Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Temp is not really an issue. It's 32. Granted, I bet it's a raw, damp kind of 32; but it's looking basically manageable. No snow falling, wind isn't too bad. All things considered it could be a WHOLE lot worse. Colts are just making too many mistakes on defense, and the offense is totally dead in the water. CRIPES. Colts just stop them on 4th and 5. Then the stupid lineman, WELL after the play, walks up to a ref and twerks. IDIOT. Pushed back from the 40 to the 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 So much for taking the Colts and the points. And it's a near lock for the under at the 2 minute mark (it's 55 1/2). Who woulda figured the most effective unit on the field would be KC's defense? So Kermit stays alive while Goofy is out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Usually at this stage my rooting is almost purely by longitude, but with Mahomes being Big Media's fair-haired boy I was hoping for the visitors. Instead there was a Hoover Vacuum imitation. Sigh. PS: That last running into the kicker foul was purest Communists-set-fire-to-the-Reichstag bogosity, though it had no effect on the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Cancer said: PS: That last running into the kicker foul was purest Communists-set-fire-to-the-Reichstag bogosity, though it had no effect on the outcome. Maybe. Did the guy run into the punter? Perhaps not. However, can the rusher undercut the punter like that, not giving him a clear landing area? That, I'm not sure, but overall I'd think that shouldn't be allowed. So even if the rusher didn't brush the punter's hip, I thought the call was OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Is it just me, or is anyone else feeling out of sync? It's Sunday night...right?? Oh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Oh, joy. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25749860/language-new-coaches-contracts-hints-possible-nfl-work-stoppage-2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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