Christopher R Taylor Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 Frankly every plan Luthor has tried in every Superman movie has been idiotic. The Superman Returns (aka Lois Lane: the motion picture) was one of the dumbest ever. Cassandra and Grailknight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Cassandra said: What? Superman couldn't have just said "Luthor's kidnapped my Mom." There wasn't exactly trust on either side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_A Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 On 2/23/2018 at 12:28 AM, Greywind said: There wasn't exactly trust on either side. "Mar-Tha." Two syllables and they're suddenly best friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackValhalla Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Luthor's entire plan hinged on the following: that Superman would be able to find Lois in the five seconds that it would take for her to hit the ground. And that Superman would not be able to find his own mother in ten minutes in a deliberate search. He needed both of those things to be true for his plan to work. He needed Superman to hear Lois' scream and come to the rescue before she hit the ground so he could steer Supes to Gotham. And then he needed Supes to be unable to find Martha, so Batman and Supes would actually come into contact. It's probably the biggest single, most concise plot hole in a movie that was basically just a Russian nesting doll of plot holes. Grailknight, Netzilla, Christopher R Taylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 So far nobody in movies has been able to write Lex Luthor at all. They need to read some actual comic books, especially Byrne's Man of Steel run Cassandra and Matt the Bruins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Best live-action Luthor to date has been Michael Rosenbaum. assault, Netzilla and Cassandra 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 The best Lex Luthor was from the Superman TAS and Justice League Unlimited series. massey and Netzilla 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 14 hours ago, JackValhalla said: Luthor's entire plan hinged on the following: that Superman would be able to find Lois in the five seconds that it would take for her to hit the ground. And that Superman would not be able to find his own mother in ten minutes in a deliberate search. He needed both of those things to be true for his plan to work. He needed Superman to hear Lois' scream and come to the rescue before she hit the ground so he could steer Supes to Gotham. And then he needed Supes to be unable to find Martha, so Batman and Supes would actually come into contact. It's probably the biggest single, most concise plot hole in a movie that was basically just a Russian nesting doll of plot holes. You can do this two ways. One is Summon which is too expensive, or a Mind Link w/Superman, Incantations ["Help, Superman!"] (+1/4). We call that the Teri Hatcher option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsatow Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 23 hours ago, Cassandra said: The best Lex Luthor was from the Superman TAS and Justice League Unlimited series. I don't know. The Lex Luthor in Young Justice was pretty good. Andrew_A, Ninja-Bear and Cassandra 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Animated DC has always been much, much better than live action DC. Although I did like Lois & Clark Cassandra, Grailknight and Armory 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Animated DC has always been much, much better than live action DC. Although I did like Lois & Clark John Shea was a brilliant businessman and mastermind, but lacked the scientific genius we've come to expect from Lex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Quote John Shea was a brilliant businessman and mastermind, but lacked the scientific genius we've come to expect from Lex. I prefer evil businessman Luthor over mad scientist Luthor by a long ways. It sets him apart from most other bad guys, makes him sort of unique instead of just another gadget guy. It makes him scary and dangerous in a realm Superman has no power or understanding over. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 3:02 PM, Christopher R Taylor said: I prefer evil businessman Luthor over mad scientist Luthor by a long ways. It sets him apart from most other bad guys, makes him sort of unique instead of just another gadget guy. It makes him scary and dangerous in a realm Superman has no power or understanding over. In Atom Man vs. Superman Lex Luthor was both an evil businessman and evil scientist. He was caught in the first chapter but in exchange for a scientific device got a pardon and bough a TV station. Wearing a lead mask he committed crimes as the Atom Man using his handy teleportation device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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