Cygnia Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 84 years old. http://www.vulture.com/2018/06/writer-harlan-ellison-dead-at-84.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_A Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 EDIT: For some f--king reason the damn forum won't let me post the Harlan Ellison video I wanted to post. It also won't let me delete this post. Any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Condolences, Andrew. I was never an Ellison fan, but it does suck to lose another of his generation of writers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Sorry to hear about his passing. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Alas, Ellison. We Harlan knew ye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Brilliant, abrasive, and a SF icon from my youth. Rest well, and may you have no need to scream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 I have to say, reading the short stories of Paingod and Strange Wine were the first time I have ever read a book like that and had to stop after each story just to digest what I had just read. I know he was paranoid, partly nuts (listening to him speak at the Portland Westercon in the mid 80s was amazing, and yes I was really there). I personally liked a lot of his writing and think this is a loss for the genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 Innovative artist and compelling storyteller. Opinionated, acid-tongued curmudgeon. Not an unusual combination. But his legacy is undeniable. Matt the Bruins and zslane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 He was definitely a man of his own mind and a talented writer. I loved his Jefty is Five. I do wonder what he was thinking with some of the things he did in his last few years, though. I wonder who will replace him in SF fandom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 I halfway seriously thought Ellison would never die. I figured he'd pissed off both God and the Devil, so like Jack Of The Lantern, he'd have to wander the Earth until Judgement Day. He wrote, in the afterword of The Essential Ellison, the words that became his epitaph-- "For a brief time, I was here; and, for a brief time, I mattered." Ain't that the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 I got to see both sides of his mercurial personality during a live reading of excerpts from Mind Fields that he did about twenty years ago at (what used to be) the Morphius museum in Los Angeles. He was not feeling well, suffering from the flu as I recall, but he was there regardless. Disappointing his fans was simply not in his DNA. He was soft-spoken, charming, and fascinating to listen to. And then some folks who were standing outside the small room where he was reading (it was SRO and spilling out into the hallways) were carrying on a rather distracting conversation amongst themselves. Harlan stopped reading, gently took off his reading glasses, walked out to the hallway and let them have it. Everyone in the room giggled nervously and then cheered politely. He then calmly walked back into the room, apologized for the interruption, and resumed reading. After the reading he signed autographs, and when I got to him I told him that I appreciated his never-ending efforts to be the voice of reason, to which he very humbly said, "Oh, I don't know about that, but thank you very much." Harlan Ellison was most certainly a man who did not suffer fools and ogres gladly, but it was my experience that whenever he was in the presence of those who were kind, respectful, thoughtful, and intelligent, he was exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 Dang, there are many writers I like, but only a few I admire. Harlan was one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 He was a very, very good writer with a huge array of work that everyone has enjoyed even if they aren't aware of it. He used to take a typewriter to book signings, take a suggestion from the audience, and write a short story on the spot based on that suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 He also used to do bookstore events where he would sit down at a table with a typewriter and write a story on the fly, having the pages passed around and then taped to the store window as he went (could be the same thing you're referring to Christopher). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 Yep, each page he finished they'd be taped to the window so people could read the story as it was being done. Dude wrote some of the most classic sci fi TV episodes ever, like City on the Edge of Tomorrow. He was the science consultant on Babylon Five, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 There was a very entertaining episode of Tom Snyder's late night talk show back in the late 70s featuring some of the original Star Trek cast and Harlan Ellison. The general slant of the conversation was all about how ground-breaking and intelligent Star Trek was, with the cast members all patting themselves on the back for being pioneers of fine science fiction storytelling (on television at least). Then after about 20 minutes of this, Tom turned to Harlan who had been utterly silent during all of this, and asked him his thoughts on the matter. Harlan began by pointing out that Star Trek, for all its accolades, was an example of absolutely mediocre storytelling at best. He then proceeded to shred the previous 20 minutes of commentary, ruthlessly slaughtering all the sacred cows that Star Trek fandom had cultivated during the decade since the show had been cancelled. The look on everyone's faces was priceless. The cast members were suddenly and uncomfortably reminded of just how irascible Harlan could be, having experienced some of that during the production of City on the Edge of Forever (and if you really want to know what Harlan thought of that episode, you should read the book he wrote about it.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 My early exposure as to how much of an [bleep] Ellison could be was in an old Stephen King non-fiction book (Danse Macabre) that dedicated a section on his works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 For a short time during the SciFi channel's earliest years on the air, Harlan Ellison had a three-minute commentary segment on their weekly "sci-fi news" program Sci Fi Buzz. He got to pick the subject matter and he never pulled any punches. He quit when he decided that the channel's overlords had completely sold their souls to feckless commerce. But before he did that, I learned a few interesting/valuable things from him. Here are a few: 1. A viewer wrote in saying, "Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Harlan," to which he replied, "No, everyone is entitled to their informed opinion." 2. The actual saying is, "To eat their cake and have it too." (where "have it" implies having it in hand). Not the other way around. 3. The Disney Company is a shameless hypocrite when it comes to IP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Is there anyone, in his opinion, who didn't sell their souls to feckless commerce? Good of you to mention Tom Snyder--Ellison was a semi-regular guest on his show. I remember the episode where he came on after winning a lawsuit against whatever movie studio stole his concept "Brillo" and turned it into the TV show Future Cop. He was positively crowing over that victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 I found Ellison's work to be a bit hit and miss. Some of his best regarded stories left me a but underwhelmed, while I like some of his less well known stuff. He DID have a tendency to shoot his mouth off before engaging his brain however (if some of the remarks I have seen credited to him are correct).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 He was a huge curmudgeon but was always good to his fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted July 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 https://archive.org/stream/Fantasy_Science_Fiction_v080n01_1991-01/Fantasy__Science_Fiction_v080n01_1991-01#page/n103/mode/2up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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