zslane Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 Godzilla is tiny compared to the carrier? Now, granted, I can't tell exactly which carrier we're seeing, but a Nimitz class carrier is more than twice as long as the Legendary Godzilla is tall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Spence said: Now we have a suddenly tiny Godzilla (compared to the carrier) and Big Ape with Axe that apparently absorbs atomic breath. Well, Legendary/MonsterVerse Godzilla is 393 feet to Kong's 104 feet tall, according to the innertubes. I'm not defending that axe. I found that a bit off-putting myself. Edit: Nimitz-class carrier is 1040 feet long at the waterline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 Yes, Legendary Godzilla is nearly 400 feet tall, which in those shots looks just about right on top of a thousand-foot carrier. I don't know where this talk of "tiny Godzilla" keeps coming from. There aren't many sky scrapers in the world much taller than that. This is also the tallest Godzilla ever in live action. Only the anime "Godzilla Earth" is taller, at 1,000 feet in height. If that's your standard, then sure, call this Godzilla tiny. As for Kong, he was a little over 100 feet tall nearly fifty years ago when the Skull Island movie was set. Plainly he grew since then. HIs axe appears to be made from body parts from the corpse of one of Godzilla's relatives, in which case its capacity to absorb atomic breath makes perfect sense. I'm sorry, Sketch, but I honestly don't see where you're getting that this movie is any less serious and more "kiddie absurd" than any of the other Legendary Godzilla movies. Just because Kong is wielding an axe? He used weapons on Skull Island too. Godzilla is on a rampage over the world, and humanity is desperate enough to try to press-gang Kong to fight him. How is that not serious? I fear you're psyching yourself into hating it before you've even seen it. slikmar, pinecone, Twilight and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 I plotted a graph of Legendary Kong's growth, fitting it to two values we know (his size in 1973 and 2021), and one value I'm throwing in just for fun (his height as given in the promotional materials for the original 1933 film). Based on the resulting curve, it is evident that Legendary Kong is still on an upward growth trajectory. Lord Liaden and Lawnmower Boy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhamin Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 21 hours ago, zslane said: I plotted a graph of Legendary Kong's growth, fitting it to two values we know (his size in 1973 and 2021), and one value I'm throwing in just for fun (his height as given in the promotional materials for the original 1933 film). Based on the resulting curve, it is evident that Legendary Kong is still on an upward growth trajectory. In which case, it is *VITAL* that Godzilla kill him in this movie. At this rate he will be bigger than the moon in another few decades! Lawnmower Boy, zslane and drunkonduty 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 One reason the Axe doesn't bother me is that the Legendary stuff, from the first impression of Godzilla looking at the soldier in the first movie, was to me projected as being smart, as was Kong and the others. Not "mindless monsters", but actually thinking/rationalizing ones. Twilight and Lord Liaden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 An important point to emphasize. These Titans aren't just animals. Every one we've seen on screen for any length of time has displayed intelligence at or near the human level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Logically, the axe isn't an issue. Aesthetically, it is. At least for me. But I'll overlook it if I like the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 I can see that, and it's a legitimate subjective response. For my part, that the axe's appearance betrays its construction, and its construction explains its function, makes it that much cooler. Also, I can't remember another movie in this genre in which a kaiju wields a distinctive melee weapon. Giant robots, sure, but not giant creatures. This may be a precedent setter. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Would be interesting if when Kong goes to get the Axe, you see weapons made specifically to defeat other of the Kaiju. Nets for the flyers, some type of fire ranged thing for Rodan, a long spear for Spidra etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 I dunno, that would start to feel rather gimmicky to me. The premise the trailers seem to imply is that the ancestors of Godzilla and Kong were rivals for Alpha status among the Titans, so for the proto-Kong to fashion something specifically to level the playing field with Godz seems like an extraordinary but appropriate measure. A whole arsenal of such specialized weapons sounds like a giant ape version of Q from the Bond films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord Liaden said: I dunno, that would start to feel rather gimmicky to me. The premise the trailers seem to imply is that the ancestors of Godzilla and Kong were rivals for Alpha status among the Titans, so for the proto-Kong to fashion something specifically to level the playing field with Godz seems like an extraordinary but appropriate measure. A whole arsenal of such specialized weapons sounds like a giant ape version of Q from the Bond films. It sounds more like something a Bat-Kaiju would do. Matt the Bruins, slikmar and zslane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 King Kong will definitely have a Utility belt by the end of the movie. And Godzilla will be carrying a shield. You heard it here first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 King Kong will become Batman and Godzilla become Joker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJackBrass Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Slight conversational sidestep, but I had a bored moment and access to Twitter earlier, so… assault, Lord Liaden and Lawnmower Boy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Godzilla became King the old-fashioned way, by killing everyone who didn't agree. Lawnmower Boy, assault and Matt the Bruins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted March 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord Liaden said: Godzilla became King the old-fashioned way, by killing everyone who didn't agree. And it's the Americans who bestowed upon him the title of king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 So...irony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Hey, they didn't declare him "King of the Americans." But I don't think G cares what humans call him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 Welp, watched the movie and it doesn't disappoint. This is a worthy sequel to G:KotM. The weakest parts of the movie are the human storylines but, aside from a few "tech has come a long way huh" handwaves, they don't overpower the movie and actually tell a fairly cohesive story. There's very little overly melodramatic dialogue and humanity is actually useful in several kaiju fights. And the kaiju fights rule. There are plenty. they are very smooth, the fighters move like natural creatures and the fights are brutal. There are also no dust clouds obscuring the battles so you can see exactly what's going on. As for who wins, the first fight isn't fair, the second is a pick'em and and the third is really decisive but the exhausted victor would've been killed by the film's villain if the loser hadn't come back to help. Bonus points for putting the Apex base a one hour drive from my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Grailknight said: And the kaiju fights rule. There are plenty. It is always interesting to me how vastly differently people experience the same movie. James Whitbrook of io9 says this about the fights: "...the hits come so few and far between to justify slogging through the rest of it." So which is it? Are there plenty of kaiju fights? Or are they rare, few and far between? I guess it comes down to one's expectations. If you're only expecting one (big) battle, then maybe it feels like this movie delivers plenty of fights, but if you were expecting wall-to-wall kaiju action then maybe it felt too sparse. This is (one of many reasons) why I don't pay much attention to reviews (of anything, not just movies). There's no way to calibrate other people's assessments/opinions with my own to arrive at any useful conclusions about whether I will like it or not. In fact, as misleading as trailers typically are, I can usually tell if I'm going to like a movie much more from a trailer than anyone's review. Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 It was decent, a bit better than the 2nd movie. I wouldn't say there are 'plenty' of kaiju fights, but the last 30 minutes are basically two long separate battles. B- grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 The kaiju are on the screen for what feels like the majority of the movie and the human stories are more closely involved with them(especially Kong's). Besides the fights Godzilla has his "attack" on the base. Kong gets more screen time because this is basically his origin story. There is a long time before the first fight but it moves pretty crisply after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 I'll wait until the movie actually releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 It's currently in two movie theaters in the Greater Toronto area where I live, but only in outliers that are time-consuming and costly for me to reach. I'll wait to see if it gets closer when more things open up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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