Rebar Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 I'm reading through both Growth and Multiform, but find no explicit mention of the other re: how to buy Growth in a MF. I have a Multiforming character where only one or two of several forms have growth (and one or two might have shrinking). Is a Multiform form considered to have Inherent size? i.e. Do I buy it as a bunch of power and characteristics, and a disad for the size? Or do I buy Growth for the forms? Probably going to have 'change forms as a zero phase action', and 'reverts when stunned', if that makes any diff. I'm gonna place a bet on it being Inherent - as in: I buy powers and disads to simulate inherent size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cowan Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Can the character use MF with the large size power with out using growth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Each multiform is essentially a completely separate character. Build each completely from the ground up; they only have what each form pays for regardless of what the other forms have. If you want an ability that they all have each form has to pay for it. This includes skills, stats and any other aspect of the character. So all forms are normal sized unless they purchase an size related abilities. Growth and shrinking are for characters that can change their size, not for those who are permanently larger or smaller. A character who is larger or smaller than normal is supposed to simply buy the stats appropriate for the size, and take a physical complication for his size. Tom Cowan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebar Posted July 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 11 hours ago, Tom Cowan said: Can the character use MF with the large size power with out using growth? I'm not sure what you're asking. His primary form is human, but he can turn into a bird, cat or elephant, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebar Posted July 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 hours ago, LoneWolf said: Each multiform is essentially a completely separate character. Build each completely from the ground up; they only have what each form pays for regardless of what the other forms have. If you want an ability that they all have each form has to pay for it. This includes skills, stats and any other aspect of the character. So all forms are normal sized unless they purchase an size related abilities. Growth and shrinking are for characters that can change their size, not for those who are permanently larger or smaller. A character who is larger or smaller than normal is supposed to simply buy the stats appropriate for the size, and take a physical complication for his size. OK, so for an elephant form, he buys skills, powers and disads to simulate growth. The reason I wasn't sure is because it says, in more than one place, if the character can simply change into another form to escape the consequences (of say, weighing 10 tons), then the GM might rule it to be less of a disad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cowan Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Rebar said: OK, so for an elephant form, he buys skills, powers and disads to simulate growth. The reason I wasn't sure is because it says, in more than one place, if the character can simply change into another form to escape the consequences (of say, weighing 10 tons), then the GM might rule it to be less of a disad. So no 100kg mini elephant, or riding in a sports car as an elephant physical complication for size time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebar Posted July 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Shoot. I always forget to mention 5thEd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 5th edition and 6th edition rules for this are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 You can buy a Multiform with Growth if that form can grow, but is normally human size. You can buy a Multiform with Shrinking if that form can shrink, but is normally human size. If the other form of the Multiform naturally huge or small, then they are simulated. This makes for an interesting "growing" character. An "undrainable" and "instant" growth by Multiforming into a huge character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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