greypaladin_01 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 I have a D&D campagin that I am actually working to convert over into Fantasy Hero.... obviously not EVERYTHING translates well, nor are we trying. However in looking through the Bestiary I didnt spot anything that looks even approximate to the classic owlbear. As this is a common creature in the region the players adventure I would like to keep them in the transfer. Has anyone done workups or found comparables in the bestiary? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 9:22 PM, greypaladin_01 said: I have a D&D campagin that I am actually working to convert over into Fantasy Hero.... obviously not EVERYTHING translates well, nor are we trying. However in looking through the Bestiary I didnt spot anything that looks even approximate to the classic owlbear. As this is a common creature in the region the players adventure I would like to keep them in the transfer. Has anyone done workups or found comparables in the bestiary? Thanks in advance! Offhand, I would think a grizzly bear would fit perfectly if you gave it a bonus to perception checks and described its bite as a "beak attack". There's been several people, notably Killer Shrike and Michael Surbrook, who've done a lot of conversion work between the two systems but I've not specifically seen an owlbear. I know Killer Shrike hangs out on the forums here sometimes but not sure about Surbrook. http://killershrike.com http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptationscreatures/games/games.html I would also recommend bookmarking this site which has a list of links of how to convert to HERO from a number of different systems. (Note that many of the links are old enough that you might have to look them up in the WaybackMachine website.) http://www.curufea.com/doku.php?id=roleplaying:hero:conversions:fantasy_hero Christopher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 9:19 AM, archer said: Offhand, I would think a grizzly bear would fit perfectly if you gave it a bonus to perception checks and described its bite as a "beak attack". Looking at it, it appears the owlbear is just a straight up upgraded version of the Brownbear. CR 1 (Brown Bear) is changed to CR 3 (Owlbear):https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Brown Bear#contenthttps://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Owlbear#h-Owlbear This is done both via straight up stat increases (more Strenght, HP, Attack Bonus, Damage) and via a type change (Beast to monstrosity wich makes it immune to certain "beast only" spells and effects). I guess that makes the Owlbear similar to a Brown Bear upgraded via any of the Templates (Celestial, Feindish, Half-Dragon). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 There really isn't much that sets apart the owlbear apart from its vision range. Its just a funny looking bear, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Rather than convert every type of monster, which would be a herculean effort, I instead offered up step by step conversion suggestions to convert potentially any monster: http://killershrike.com/FantasyHERO/Conversion3e/Conversion3eMonsters.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 7:02 PM, Christopher R Taylor said: There really isn't much that sets apart the owlbear apart from its vision range. Its just a funny looking bear, really. Yeah, until I give the Hero version Flight. After all, it is an OWLbear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Old Man said: Yeah, until I give the Hero version Flight. After all, it is an OWLbear... I fear at best I could give it some gliding. Working based on the same mechanic as flying racoons or wingsuits. And that sounds more hilarious then dangerous/threathening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Gliding I like or at least slow falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Leaping, then. And also that weird ability to rotate its head 720 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Well the thing has a beak so AP HKA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 11 hours ago, Ninja-Bear said: Well the thing has a beak so AP HKA? AP is really hard to extract/justify from any D&D material. The way armor works is so different, AP could be simulated as a higher damge and/or higher attack value. Wich is both also just in the normal power progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Christopher said: AP is really hard to extract/justify from any D&D material. The way armor works is so different, AP could be simulated as a higher damge and/or higher attack value. Wich is both also just in the normal power progression. I see your point however since he is using Hero system, I assumed he is typical attacks and defenses of Hero hence the AP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Ninja-Bear said: I see your point however since he is using Hero system, I assumed he is typical attacks and defenses of Hero hence the AP. It is definitely a case where the changed rule System offers more Granularity. I was not trying to disagree with that. But honestly I am now at a loss what I was even trying to say then. Now where did that Train of Thought drove off too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Christopher I figured that your post was along the lines that the OP even though was using Hero still tried to do something D&Dish with DCV as THACO. Which some have tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus40218 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Well, for the beak attack, I'd look at other creatures from the Beastiary that have a beak attack and decide if you want it to be more or less powerful and adjust from there: For example (only listing relevant stats): Griffin -- STR 25, Eagle's Beak: HKA 1d6+1 (3d6 w/STR) Hippogriff -- STR 20, Eagle's Beak: HKA 1d6 (2d6+1 w/STR) Ninja-Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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