Xotl Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Is there any way for Hero to offer a torrent of the backed-up forums (minus all the Off-Topic stuff), or a standard solution for us to do the archiving ourselves that works with this forums software? The "purge" statement says that old threads will be deleted: that's 14 years of posts, pretty much the entire modern history of the game. All those rules discussions, character builds, official rulings, etc being lost would be a terrible blow to the system and its fans, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 In a word: no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorkca Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 -Would there be access to it through the Wayback Machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 It will be a real loss to the community. Is it possible (and while I am expecting a simple no here, I am hoping for more) that the vast majority of images etc are associated with NGD and that we might purge NGD without losing the real gaming content that I would have thought the site was here to support? RDU Neil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 It will be a perceived (but not actual) loss to the community. People simply do not access the content*. Case in point: the NGD and most other forums were pruned before the announcement went up. * Yes, I'm aware that one or two will chime in stating that they looked at an archived thread a month or two ago -- if they're willing to cough up $400 per month for the privilege (and go under contract for at least a year), then we can talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Amorkca said: -Would there be access to it through the Wayback Machine? I tested that. From the first few years of the millennium, it's possible. For the more recent configuration of the forum software, no luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Simon said: It will be a perceived (but not actual) loss to the community. People simply do not access the content*. Case in point: the NGD and most other forums were pruned before the announcement went up. * Yes, I'm aware that one or two will chime in stating that they looked at an archived thread a month or two ago -- if they're willing to cough up $400 per month for the privilege (and go under contract for at least a year), then we can talk. Understood. Since you generously provide this server space to the community for free, we can't ask you to do more. If I had that money to spare, we would talk. Sadly, by the time I win the lottery it'll be too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Simon said: It will be a perceived (but not actual) loss to the community. People simply do not access the content*. I did admin on a forum for a couple of decades. I _totally_ believe that. Godspeed on getting everything straightened out, Sir. Duke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xotl Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 What about making a singular exception for the 6th Edition Rules Questions forum? In terms of running the game it's by far the most valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, Xotl said: What about making a singular exception for the 6th Edition Rules Questions forum? In terms of running the game it's by far the most valuable. If any forum could be spared from the purge, this one does seem the best to choose. Ninja-Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 The intention is for the pruning that's already been done to be all that is needed. Should that not prove to be the case (e.g. the 4.5GB database requires too high of a RAM load for reasonable hosting plans), the order of operations for additional pruning would be: Prune all posts started over a year ago in the NGD - this would remove the long-running (and space-hog) threads and get rid of the bulk of the posts that can/should be pruned back. Prune posts in the gaming forums (HERO System Discussion, Champions, etc.). This will remove a decent amount, but not as much as the NGD. Prune any remaining forums (this is the only point at which the rules questions forum would come into play) Again, the intent is to have the pruning that has already been performed be all that is needed. Cancer, bluesguy, Lord Liaden and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xotl Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Excellent, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 9:37 PM, Simon said: e.g. the 4.5GB database requires too high of a RAM load for reasonable hosting plans I asume you are using some version of PHP and thus MySQL? Then there is not much room for optimisation. If it was a MS SQL server you would have nice stuff like the Filestream storage Attribute. And stuff like the Output syntax. You can say what you want about MS Product prices, but they do have some of the nicest features for professional developers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Are you actually so tone-deaf as to start with that crap here and now? Does this seem like a wise idea to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Oh... that is not going to end well. Doc Democracy, Hugh Neilson and Duke Bushido 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 20 hours ago, Simon said: Are you actually so tone-deaf as to start with that crap here and now? Does this seem like a wise idea to you? I have literally no idea what you are talking about. Please explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Apparently you are that tone-deaf. For your own safety your posts will be moderated for the next three months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Stanfield Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Hi Simon. My profile picture is no longer displayed. Did some of the photos get purged? I don’t think it was ver bid, but maybe it didn’t make the cut. Or perhaps other forces are afoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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