Cygnia Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 Grailknight, Ockham's Spoon and Steve 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Badger said: Skywalker is dead Hmmm. When you say that do you mean Luke? Anakin? Leia? or Kylo Ren?? They could all be classed as Skywalkers and, in the movies at least, two of those are readily classed as alive, two as dead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 The teaser may not be designed to help us learn what the movie is really all about, but its job is to get us excited to see the movie. That appears to have worked on kids and casual fans (not exactly the most discerning lot), but it barely moves the needle for the hardcore fans who have been wounded too deeply by the profound disappointment that was The Last Jedi and the rehash of episode IV that was The Force Awakens. Starlord, Christopher R Taylor, Lee and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 Well it wasn't clear Luke died, just that he... fell over for no apparent reason after acting like a completely different person than 3 previous films established him being. Pattern Ghost, Trencher and massey 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Ninja-Bear said: Force Ghost anyone? ? Well, that would be how they sneak him in. But, no, no rise. Unless we have the first Force Ghost warrior in SW history (as far as I know, I didn't read every EU piece) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: To quote Stephan Dube's comment on YouTube, "It's the son of Palpatine we hear. Ovaltine." I demand the kid from Christmas Story play him then. BoloOfEarth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Doc Democracy said: Hmmm. When you say that do you mean Luke? Anakin? Leia? or Kylo Ren?? They could all be classed as Skywalkers and, in the movies at least, two of those are readily classed as alive, two as dead... Carrie Fisher probably wont be in this one (barring CGI in poor taste*). So, you are down to one. (or rather one-half) *or re-casting, again, in poor taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Well it wasn't clear Luke died, just that he... fell over for no apparent reason after acting like a completely different person than 3 previous films established him being. wait, wait, I got it, and then the dying parasitic alien that has been controlling Luke crawls out of Luke's ear. I just saved your (edit), Rian Johnson. (Of course, expect Roddenberry estate suing the (edit) I just saved. Trencher and Christopher R Taylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 Palpatine is now a Disney princess... Ninja-Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted April 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Badger said: Carrie Fisher probably wont be in this one (barring CGI in poor taste*). So, you are down to one. (or rather one-half) *or re-casting, again, in poor taste You might want to watch the trailer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 So is Rey Luke and Leia's lovechild? Maybe some genetic experiment like which created Anakin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Doc Democracy said: Hmmm. When you say that do you mean Luke? Anakin? Leia? or Kylo Ren?? They could all be classed as Skywalkers and, in the movies at least, two of those are readily classed as alive, two as dead... A Kylo redemption arc would complete the 3rd trilogy being a parallel of the first. But the obvious answer is that Rey is impregnated by the Force Ghost of Emperor Palpatine, then hurtled across time and space to end up on Tattoine where she takes the name Shmi Skywalker and, never revealing her past, claims that the boy has no father. But maybe they have some twist in mind rather than that too-obvious approach. Pattern Ghost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Well it wasn't clear Luke died, just that he... fell over for no apparent reason after acting like a completely different person than 3 previous films established him being. Luke in Episode IV starts out a whiny little b***h, moves into being a know-it-all in Episode V, and then tries to be the cool kid in Episode VI. Having a much older Luke essentially channeling Ben and Yoda in hiding out in a remote area, nursing his wounds, and occasionally yelling at clouds seems very much in character. Duke Bushido, Sociotard, Trencher and 2 others 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 Barring overwhelming positive reviews from critics, fans and friends this movie will not draw me to the theater. This trailer certainly didn't excite me. TFA was a weak remake of the original but is had some small promise. TLJ had the same flaws as TFA( it was so bad in other ways that you barely noticed that it followed the plot of TESB almost exactly) while adding widespread incompetence to both sides, altering the personalities of beloved legacy characters, changing the physics of the universe, interjecting preachy political agendas and finally not delivering a single lightsaber duel hurt me so bad that I now can't watch the originals because I know the crappy future of my heroes. I'll see it but they'll have to settle for whatever percentage they get from my cable subscription. Armory, massey and Christopher R Taylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 I actually thought of a way they could salvage this for me emotionally. It requires Rey becoming more of a Mary Sue but that ship seems to have unlimited cargo capacity so here goes: The Jedi have long preached denying their emotions and channeling the Force as pure thought while the Sith use the Dark Side by harnessing their negative emotions to fuel their power. I'm sure this has been done somewhere in the EU but what if Rey discovers the ability to harness the Force through her positive emotions and then combine that with her controlled dark emotions. She could become a true force master and invent a new way with a balanced relationship with the Force and life. Incredibly cheesy but It is a movie for kids and sets the SW Universe on a hopeful course. Amorkca and drunkonduty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 Grailknight why would you base seeing a movie based on Critic reviews? I haven’t trusted them in a long time. Fans (depending on how fanatical) and actual movie goers is what is based it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 Quote Having a much older Luke essentially channeling Ben and Yoda in hiding out in a remote area, nursing his wounds, and occasionally yelling at clouds seems very much in character. But having Luke bitter and hateful man who tries to murder a boy and burn all the texts... not so much. Ternaugh, Hermit, massey and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Grailknight said: I actually thought of a way they could salvage this for me emotionally. It requires Rey becoming more of a Mary Sue but that ship seems to have unlimited cargo capacity so here goes: The Jedi have long preached denying their emotions and channeling the Force as pure thought while the Sith use the Dark Side by harnessing their negative emotions to fuel their power. I'm sure this has been done somewhere in the EU but what if Rey discovers the ability to harness the Force through her positive emotions and then combine that with her controlled dark emotions. She could become a true force master and invent a new way with a balanced relationship with the Force and life. Incredibly cheesy but It is a movie for kids and sets the SW Universe on a hopeful course. Realizing although Canon, most people haven't seen it, the Star Wars: Rebels series actually explored this and many ways the main protagonist - Ezra - in many ways became what you said. He was studying both light and dark side force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 Apparently they are using previously unused footage of Carrie Fisher and tweaking it with a little CGI here and there as necessary to fit her into the narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 Quote but what if Rey discovers the ability to harness the Force through her positive emotions and then combine that with her controlled dark emotions. One would think that in the thousands of years of Jedi history at least one person would have come up with this idea before. And found that emotions are uncontrollable and lead to bad places if they generate power, no matter how positive you try to make them. That said I'm sure that's where they're going: hope and joy-joy feelings will save us all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Starlord said: You might want to watch the trailer.... I see, so you're saying they went with "in poor taste". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Badger said: I see, so you're saying they went with "in poor taste". They went with existing unused footage from filming TFA. Whether that ends up "in poor taste" remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Christopher R Taylor said: But having Luke bitter and hateful man who tries to murder a boy and burn all the texts... not so much. If I remember right, Yoda's force-ghost burned the texts, and the attempted murder was Kylo Ren's "certain point of view". Jedi and Sith are by definition unreliable narrators, though the Sith tend to be a bit more honest about their manipulations. Trencher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Ternaugh said: They went with existing unused footage from filming TFA. Whether that ends up "in poor taste" remains to be seen. TFA was in poor taste... Christopher R Taylor, zslane and Trencher 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 3 hours ago, zslane said: Apparently they are using previously unused footage of Carrie Fisher and tweaking it with a little CGI here and there as necessary to fit her into the narrative. That makes me think the plot isn't very tight. Christopher R Taylor and Trencher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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