Cassandra Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 The Collector (1965) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 Wouldn't mind seeing an updated version of The Conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I would like to see a remake of Starship Troopers that wasn't a complete middle finger to the original book. As far as The Princess Bride is concerned, I think anyone who suggests a remake should be put into the Zoo of Death. (It's possible that I'm a little opinionated where these movies are concerned.) Tjack, Old Man, bigbywolfe and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 58 minutes ago, Pariah said: I would like to see a remake of Starship Troopers that wasn't a complete middle finger to the original book. I don't think that's possible. The book is more about politics than fighting bugs, and the politics are... difficult. Hmm... actually, it might be possible to make one at the moment. Authoritarianism is on the rise, so a film where the characters spend much of their time justifying a society shaped by a "patriotic" coup against a degenerate democracy might just be a success. At the very least it could become a cult classic. But I wouldn't bother seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 The Starship Troopers I read was a thick pro-fascist political lecture bookended by two chapters that vaguely depicted powered armor. But someone should make a movie that’s true to the source material so people will finally realize this. drunkonduty, Christopher R Taylor, assault and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hmm... actually at least one Ayn Rand book has been filmed, hasn't it? Maybe a remake could make it clear that it is boring gibberish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 The thing one needs to remember about the Starship Troopers movie us that Paul Verhoven grew up during the Nazi occupation of Holland--which means that some of his earliest memories were of bombs falling and artillery shells exploding, then all these big guys in sharp grey uniforms strutting around like they owned the place. Under those circumstances, I would think it would be quite easy to become not at all impressed with military people and military culture the way, say, Americans tend to be impressed by those things. Of course, Verhoven isn't the only filmmaker to take liberties with a book. There was a Cold War thriller called Red Alert written by Peter George back in the early Sixties, about an Air Force general who learns he is dying of cancer and on his own authority orders his B-52 bomber wing to attack the Soviet Union. What follows is a mad scramble to stop the bombers and prevent World War III. Nerve-wracking, nail biting stuff, right? Serious as a heart attack followed by an indictment for murder, right? But when Stanley Kubrick got a hold of the book, he turned it into the darkest comedy ever made--Dr. Strangelove. But no one complains about the lack of fealty to the source material--or the fact that just about everyone in the movie aside from Group Captain Mandrake isn't quite playing with a full deck, especially the military men. Granted, not that many people are familiar with the original novel or its author. So let's select a better known author--Stephen King. Kubrick took some rather flagrant liberties with his book The Shining, especially with the way it ended. But very few people seem to take issue with the way Kubrick changed the movie, except for the die-hard King fans and King himself. Granted, the movie has its moments--not to mention one of the most original (and most scary) trailers ever made. But Kubrick seems to get a pass on this movie, just for being Stanley Kubrick. Those are my thoughts on the subject--take them as you will. Cygnia and assault 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 hours ago, death tribble said: I am one of those awful people who like Starship Troopers. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 More with King, I admit I'd be curious if they could remake "The Running Man" closer to the original source material as well. Mind you, I'm also seeing John Cena as Ben Richards and Wayne Brady as Damian Killian so take that with a grain of salt. Logan D. Hurricanes and bigbywolfe 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Remakes I'd like to see: A Champions PC game that is actually based on the HERO system rules. A classic fantasy game (like Baldur's gate I & II) done with Fantasy HERO system rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, ScottishFox said: A Champions PC game that is actually based on the HERO system rules. I think this could work if you were running it as a turn-based strategy with autorun option, and running a super team instead of solo. Kind of like Baldur's Gate or Divinity: Original Sin crossed with Freedom Force conceptually. ScottishFox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 The Saint. I remember watching the Kilmer movie and getting mad because it was terrible and the name of The Saint was ruined forever. This was before reboots and remakes were common. Let's redeem and restart that franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I don't want to see it redone, because I have the impression that there all too many low-quality Jonny Quest with-the-serial-numbers-filed-off-remakes already, even though JQ itself was fantastic for its time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Yeah Logan's Run does need a reboot. Its actually a pretty good film as is but feels dreadfully 70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I think it would be trivial to make an adaptation of Starship Troopers that had no pro-fascist agenda lurking in the background, particularly since that's not in the book to begin with. And I think the Iron Man movies showed how to put your star actors in powered armor without losing the ability to see their faces and their emotions. Christopher R Taylor and bigbywolfe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I often wonder if there aren’t two sharply different versions of the Starship Troopers book running around out there with the same cover. Ternaugh and assault 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 7 hours ago, wcw43921 said: Nerve-wracking, nail biting stuff, right? Serious as a heart attack followed by an indictment for murder, right? But when Stanley Kubrick got a hold of the book, he turned it into the darkest comedy ever made--Dr. Strangelove. But no one complains about the lack of fealty to the source material--or the fact that just about everyone in the movie aside from Group Captain Mandrake isn't quite playing with a full deck, especially the military men. Agreed with your point, but I would point out that at least he didn't call it Red Alert and give people the false perception it was based on a book they had read. Spence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 They did do a movie out of Red Alert. No wait -- I was thinking of Fail-Safe, almost the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 If you take Starship Troopers for what it is, rather than what it should have been, its a dumb campy and entertaining movie that does nothing whatsoever that Verhoven was trying to do. Spence and ScottishFox 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/22/2019 at 10:14 AM, zslane said: Fantastic Four Starship Troopers The Hobbit X-Men Dark Phoenix Saga John Carter of Mars Good list. The worst of the bunch was Starship Troopers. Beyond horrible. I am aware of the claim it was a parody. But Veer'idiots serious concept of any military or police is a parody of the real word anyway. So at best itcwas a parody of a parody. I've watched the show multiple times, and as Operation Bughunt. But Starship Troopers it is not. John Carter was just a miss. They did a lot right (creature effects and such) but it could have been much better if they bothered to read the books. Or if they did read them, a reading comprehension class is recommended. FF and DP were just meh. If they made new versions no one would probably realize another version existed. zslane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 hours ago, wcw43921 said: Nerve-wracking, nail biting stuff, right? Serious as a heart attack followed by an indictment for murder, right? But when Stanley Kubrick got a hold of the book, he turned it into the darkest comedy ever made--Dr. Strangelove. But no one complains about the lack of fealty to the source material--or the fact that just about everyone in the movie aside from Group Captain Mandrake isn't quite playing with a full deck, especially the military men. Let's be fair. When the movie came out there was no internet to complain on and today 99% don't read books and probably wouldn't watch the movie because is was not in color. zslane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Old Man said: I often wonder if there aren’t two sharply different versions of the Starship Troopers book running around out there with the same cover. There are. If you want to read Starship Troopers yiu need a copy from the 70's. After that each version seems to drift until the last few versions seem to support the political views of the movie. I did a side by side of a few key chapters back in 02 or 03ish and was fairly shocked at the blatant editorializing when they "modernized" the book for understanding. But heck, in the last ten years fascism magically migrated from left to right, so what do I know.... zslane, Christopher R Taylor and ScottishFox 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Geek confession: I never read or saw Starship Troopers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Oddly, I did both. I am more than willing to let the story rest unmolested for another generation to get the bad taste of the movie out of my awareness. On a scale from 1 to runs humans en masse through a cuisinart, WHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Bazza said: Ditto. Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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