6E Sell/unsell on no double damage cap

[Ninja-Bear]

3 hours ago, Hugh Neilson said:

 

Why wouldn't a 20 STR (or 30 STR) character doing a haymaker do more damage with those brass knuckles than without them?

 

Doesn't Thor do more damage hitting with that hammer than without it?  Why would the brass knuckles be different? 

 

And would Thor do LESS damage with the brass knuckles than without them?  That is what happens if we enforce the doubling rule, isn't it?

Depends on genre. Iirc, it’s stated in the original that martial artists can do more barehanded than with weapons. But I get your point though.

[ScottishFox]

12 hours ago, Hugh Neilson said:

And would Thor do LESS damage with the brass knuckles than without them?  That is what happens if we enforce the doubling rule, isn't it?

 

In a more heroic campaign you can exceed the cap at the cost of destroying the weapon.  In this case a pair of brass knuckles would do nothing for Thor as they're so weak compared to his Asgardian fist they add no value at all.

 

A 20 STR character would do more damage with the knuckles.  A 30 STR character would do extra damage once or twice and then be holding a broken handle as their ogre like super strength mangles them.

 

I believe in one of the Hulk movies the big greenie made brass knuckles of a sort by ripping a car in half and balling the wreckage up around his hands.  Even the car lasted only 3-4 swings before it disintegrated.

[Hugh Neilson]

While I can certainly see a Hulk or Thor-level STR destroying a mundane weapon after one or two uses, the same does not hold true for a "Legendarily strong human". 

 

Since when do brass knuckles have "a handle"?  If they are damaged, it seems more likely like they would bend back, contorting into/around the user's fingers.  Would it injure his hand?  Unlikely to be more damaging than the impact of his mighty STR crashing his unshielded knuckles against an opponent.

[Ninja-Bear]

Just reading UMA 4th. HA can not exceed the doubling amount in Heroic games. However in Superheroic they are allowed to.  UMA pg 125. 

[ScottishFox]

On 2/1/2020 at 6:03 PM, Hugh Neilson said:

Since when do brass knuckles have "a handle"? 

 

While probably not technically correct I was referring to this bit as the handle.

 

[Hugh Neilson]

It seems like those would be a lot easier to hold if we cut that  bit off, similar to the combo with a knife at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_knuckles.

 

From the same source, the handle diffuses the impact to the wielder's hand, reducing the potential for hurting his fingers.  Hero doesn't tend to consider that reciprocal damage.