Doc Democracy Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Heck, we have examples of doing it better right now. Germany, South Korea, New Zealand, took unified, science-based measures at the start of this pandemic, and are now reaping the rewards. Don't miss Ireland from that, they went into lockdown just over a week earlier than the UK and now have had several days with no COVID-19 related deaths. They are probably the most shameful comparison for the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cygnia Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 ...pretty much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 6:50 AM, Simon said: Agreed - 100%...though I will add that those who haven't had it become personal can still be emotionally affected and aware of the scope of the tragedy that's continuing to unfold. I was in that group and am now in the "close to home" group and can somewhat confidently say that they're not too different, just more personal now. My aunt (this shouldn't matter, but early 70's, special needs, had been living in an assisted care facility) was recently moved to the ICU showing all the (bad) signs of COVID-19. This isn't meant to take away from your post -- the majority fall into the category that you describe (not really "getting" it until it hits close to home)...which I find more than a little sad, and more than a little telling of why we're seeing the issues we are in the US. There are still some who can feel empathy for others even without a personal stake. We need more of those people. We especially need them in positions of power. Unquestionably,, no response to the pandemic will save every business from failure, every household from bankruptcy or every individual from disease, permanent aftereffects or death. Aiming for that "zero" as we minimize the casualties, however - we can do that. And we should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Tom Savini and fellow effects artist selling Jason Voorhees style PPE masks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 I'm sorry but I find that funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 They'll definitely help with social distancing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Starlord, Badger and Tom Cowan 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Old Man Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just wanted to put a stake in the "bad flu season" talking point: (Watch for a pivot to "cancer" or "heart disease" comparisons, neither of which are contagious, in 3... 2... 1...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 5:50 AM, Simon said: Agreed - 100%...though I will add that those who haven't had it become personal can still be emotionally affected and aware of the scope of the tragedy that's continuing to unfold. I was in that group and am now in the "close to home" group and can somewhat confidently say that they're not too different, just more personal now. My aunt (this shouldn't matter, but early 70's, special needs, had been living in an assisted care facility) was recently moved to the ICU showing all the (bad) signs of COVID-19. I wish you the best, Dan. You are a good person, and I hope things turn out well as they can be. Us all, we'll be here. Simon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 2:50 AM, Simon said: My aunt (this shouldn't matter, but early 70's, special needs, had been living in an assisted care facility) was recently moved to the ICU showing all the (bad) signs of COVID-19. Missed this yesterday. Please keep us posted, Simon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Old Man said: Missed this yesterday. Please keep us posted, Simon. Sadly, not much good to update: she's been moved to hospice. Cancer, Michael Hopcroft, assault and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Simon said: Sadly, not much good to update: she's been moved to hospice. Ouch. Very sorry to hear that. This is one of the little cruelties of these times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 45 minutes ago, Simon said: Sadly, not much good to update: she's been moved to hospice. I'm sorry. -- AZ isn't looking great. The numbers aren't telling the whole picture, that the navajo nation is getting crushed by this, and there are hospitals already over capacity. Going from 200 to 400 new cases in short order, and keep in mind that's 'new' cases. It can take upwards of four weeks to discharge someone, so it's not exactly surprising that hospitals are already over capacity. Lawnmower Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 5 hours ago, TrickstaPriest said: AZ isn't looking great. The numbers aren't telling the whole picture, that the navajo nation is getting crushed by this, and there are hospitals already over capacity. Going from 200 to 400 new cases in short order, and keep in mind that's 'new' cases. It can take upwards of four weeks to discharge someone, so it's not exactly surprising that hospitals are already over capacity. Apache County is even slighty worse than Navajo County...not sure what the tribal structures are there. Navajo County...1 in 65 has it. Apache County, it's 1 in 55. In NYC itself it's 1 in 41...so those 2 counties are comparable. Yuma County's rate of increase is alarming, too. The South right now is what worries me the most. 2 things...first, there's more hot spots as you start from East Texas and swing east, then up through the Carolinas, than anywhere else, it looks to me. Second, the breakdowns for those states shows it's not all that clustered...it's everywhere. It's not a red spot here and there, it's closer to what a case of measles looks like with red everywhere. Which suggests it's now firmly seeded, and suggests the numbers of cases will be swelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 I read this week that Australia is unlikely to have a second wave, as the virus is mostly contained. Next week, my unoffical-state NT will have nearly all of its restrictions lifted. We will be able to go to the cinema. Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 *facepalm* Monkeys on the loose in India with stolen coronavirus blood samples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 This just in: There were 12 monkeys in that troop . . . assault, Matt the Bruins and TrickstaPriest 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 14 hours ago, unclevlad said: Apache County is even slighty worse than Navajo County...not sure what the tribal structures are there. Navajo County...1 in 65 has it. Apache County, it's 1 in 55. In NYC itself it's 1 in 41...so those 2 counties are comparable. Yuma County's rate of increase is alarming, too. The South right now is what worries me the most. 2 things...first, there's more hot spots as you start from East Texas and swing east, then up through the Carolinas, than anywhere else, it looks to me. Second, the breakdowns for those states shows it's not all that clustered...it's everywhere. It's not a red spot here and there, it's closer to what a case of measles looks like with red everywhere. Which suggests it's now firmly seeded, and suggests the numbers of cases will be swelling. Corrupt authoritarian governments altering and hiding COVID-19 data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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unclevlad Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 Ewwww... You may not have noticed, but Brazil is now #2 in total cases, and #5 in total deaths. For ~ 70K cases a month ago, to 450K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, unclevlad said: Ewwww... You may not have noticed, but Brazil is now #2 in total cases, and #5 in total deaths. For ~ 70K cases a month ago, to 450K. That's true. Things are especially bad in Peru and Chile, which are on the verge of overtaking the U.S. for highest number of cases per capita. (That's right, the U.S. currently has more cases per person than any other country on the planet. Despite the best efforts of state governments to fudge the numbers.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Old Man said: That's true. Things are especially bad in Peru and Chile, which are on the verge of overtaking the U.S. for highest number of cases per capita. (That's right, the U.S. currently has more cases per person than any other country on the planet. Despite the best efforts of state governments to fudge the numbers.) Not from numbers on worldometers. In total cases per 1M people, US is 11th...but the top 10 in order are San Marino, Qatar, Vatican City, Andorra, Luxembourg, Mayotte, Bahrain, Spain, Kuwait, and Singapore. Of these, 5 have less than 750K population (Vatican City is less than 1K), 3 have between 1.7 and 4.3 million people, and Singapore has almost 6M...but in a highly compact area. I'm willing to downplay the per capita numbers for these. But that still leaves Spain. So we're #2, by my count. That still leaves us ahead of the UK, Sweden, and France...not exactly countries that will be cited for their positive responses.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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