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8 hours ago, Lord Liaden said:

 

Heck, we have examples of doing it better right now. Germany, South Korea, New Zealand, took unified, science-based measures at the start of this pandemic, and are now reaping the rewards.

Don't miss Ireland from that, they went into lockdown just over a week earlier than the UK and now have had several days with no COVID-19 related deaths. 

 

They are probably the most shameful comparison for the UK.

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On 5/27/2020 at 6:50 AM, Simon said:

Agreed - 100%...though I will add that those who haven't had it become personal can still be emotionally affected and aware of the scope of the tragedy that's continuing to unfold. I was in that group and am now in the "close to home" group and can somewhat confidently say that they're not too different, just more personal now.  My aunt (this shouldn't matter, but early 70's, special needs, had been living in an assisted care facility) was recently moved to the ICU showing all the (bad) signs of COVID-19. 

This isn't meant to take away from your post -- the majority fall into the category that you describe (not really "getting" it until it hits close to home)...which I find more than a little sad, and more than a little telling of why we're seeing the issues we are in the US.

 

There are still some who can feel empathy for others even without a personal stake.  We need more of those people.  We especially need them in positions of power.

 

Unquestionably,, no response to the pandemic will save every business from failure, every household from bankruptcy or every individual from disease, permanent aftereffects or death.  Aiming for that "zero" as we minimize the casualties, however - we can do that.  And we should.

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Just wanted to put a stake in the "bad flu season" talking point:

 

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(Watch for a pivot to "cancer" or "heart disease" comparisons, neither of which are contagious, in 3... 2... 1...)

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On 5/27/2020 at 5:50 AM, Simon said:

Agreed - 100%...though I will add that those who haven't had it become personal can still be emotionally affected and aware of the scope of the tragedy that's continuing to unfold. I was in that group and am now in the "close to home" group and can somewhat confidently say that they're not too different, just more personal now.  My aunt (this shouldn't matter, but early 70's, special needs, had been living in an assisted care facility) was recently moved to the ICU showing all the (bad) signs of COVID-19. 

 

I wish you the best, Dan.  You are a good person, and I hope things turn out well as they can be.  Us all, we'll be here.

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On 5/27/2020 at 2:50 AM, Simon said:

My aunt (this shouldn't matter, but early 70's, special needs, had been living in an assisted care facility) was recently moved to the ICU showing all the (bad) signs of COVID-19.

 

Missed this yesterday.  Please keep us posted, Simon.

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45 minutes ago, Simon said:

Sadly, not much good to update:  she's been moved to hospice.

 

I'm sorry.

 

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AZ isn't looking great.  The numbers aren't telling the whole picture, that the navajo nation is getting crushed by this, and there are hospitals already over capacity.  Going from 200 to 400 new cases in short order, and keep in mind that's 'new' cases.  It can take upwards of four weeks to discharge someone, so it's not exactly surprising that hospitals are already over capacity.

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