TrickstaPriest Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, unclevlad said: A similar word choice elsewhere...someone titled a thread "PC Has Gone Too Far." The OP's entire post was "Elmer Fudd is banned from having a gun." There was no BAN. Warner chose to remove the gun...their own action. Not as a result of outside pressure. Which changes the entire tone of the discussion. "Ban" is intended to raise hackles, and it's totally wrong. And sure... even if the stated premise of the title is true, I'm not sure how many people who's lives would be negatively impacted by this. Sure, there's going to far, and there will be changes to roll this attitude back, but it seems a lot easier to be reasonable about than, let's say, other things that go too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Michael Hopcroft said: Which reminds me that I need to find a chapel to visit soon. My stake is waiting for word from Salt Lake on when to open up, and will then have to figure out a way to meet guidelines. It's not going to be easy to organize. Unlike the megachurches, at the local level at least we are encouraged to follow the health directives. But I could benefit from some alone time in any chapel -- denomination of the facility doesn't mater to me at this stage. Have you considered something like an outdoor shrine or grotto, or maybe a park with flower gardens? A space doesn't have to have been constructed as a church building to be conducive to prayer and reflection. Cygnia and Pattern Ghost 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 The Texas numbers have really spiked up the last few days. We're currently at 6.9% of the number of deaths of New York and about 63% of a bad flu year (which I think we'll pass at some point). The area I live in is still under 4 deaths per 100,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 million was a "do nothing and let the virus take its course" prediction for the entirety of the pandemic, not just the first wave. And the 200k projection I've seen is for the first wave alone, with some imperfect precautions factored in. For those who downplay those numbers as "could be worse", I wonder what the "failure threshold" is. Half a million? A million? No event in American history has killed more than 750,000 people. 120,000 is already more than World War 1 or the 1957-1958 Asian Flu pandemic. Only 3 events are ahead of that number: WW2(400k from all causes), The Spanish Flu(about 675k), and the Civil War(high side estimate is 750k, more commonly 620k). Given the tangible early failures to test and contain, the death numbers are already shameful and tragic and emblematic of catastrophic failure. There are specific people and agencies that specific fingers should be pointed at. Old Man, Ragitsu, Lee and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Ooffff...not good. Mexico is 14th in total cases......but 7th in total deaths. Their death rate among the infected (deaths / total cases)...a debatable metric to take too far, granted...is the 4th highest right now, after the disastrous numbers from the UK, Italy, and France. (I just swiped the data for the top 16 countries by total # of cases.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Here I am, ducking in for layman medical opinions (very wise, yes?). With any luck, I'll be gone before I feel an urge to linger. I know that some strains of mold can cause respiratory issues if a person is subjected to their spores over a protracted period of time. Mold won't be ruled out, but I find it unlikely that I have started coughing regularly and fiercely if I have been inhaling spores for quite a while. Is it possible to developing a coughing fit that lasts a few days to a week if you inhale relatively low quantities of dust? I wasn't in a tomb or some disused shed, but I was present when a moderately dusty room had a disused corner disturbed by movement. Otherwise, I've kept to the homestead and practiced physical distancing on the rare occasion I do speak to someone face-to-face. Any packages I receive are left to "quarantine" for at least a week. My hand-washing routine has been rigorous enough to make Mr. Monk green with envy. P.S. I don't possess any allergies (as far as I know) and I'm not asthmatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Ragitsu said: Here I am, ducking in for layman medical opinions (very wise, yes?). With any luck, I'll be gone before I feel an urge to linger. I know that some strains of mold can cause respiratory issues if a person is subjected to their spores over a protracted period of time. Mold won't be ruled out, but I find it unlikely that I have started coughing regularly and fiercely if I have been inhaling spores for quite a while. Is it possible to developing a coughing fit that lasts a few days to a week if you inhale relatively low quantities of dust? I wasn't in a tomb or some disused shed, but I was present when a moderately dusty room had a disused corner disturbed by movement. Otherwise, I've kept to the homestead and practiced physical distancing on the rare occasion I do speak to someone face-to-face. Any packages I receive are left to "quarantine" for at least a week. My hand-washing routine has been rigorous enough to make Mr. Monk green with envy. P.S. I don't possess any allergies (as far as I know) and I'm not asthmatic. Depends on what the dust was made out of in the first place. Have you been coughing for a whole week? You might want to get this checked in case you have something like Bronchitis. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Ragitsu said: Here I am, ducking in for layman medical opinions (very wise, yes?). With any luck, I'll be gone before I feel an urge to linger. I know that some strains of mold can cause respiratory issues if a person is subjected to their spores over a protracted period of time. Mold won't be ruled out, but I find it unlikely that I have started coughing regularly and fiercely if I have been inhaling spores for quite a while. Is it possible to developing a coughing fit that lasts a few days to a week if you inhale relatively low quantities of dust? I wasn't in a tomb or some disused shed, but I was present when a moderately dusty room had a disused corner disturbed by movement. Otherwise, I've kept to the homestead and practiced physical distancing on the rare occasion I do speak to someone face-to-face. Any packages I receive are left to "quarantine" for at least a week. My hand-washing routine has been rigorous enough to make Mr. Monk green with envy. P.S. I don't possess any allergies (as far as I know) and I'm not asthmatic. You can have an allergic-style reaction to dust and mold spores even if you are not generally allergic. I went to the doctors a couple of years ago with a persistent cough and she told me it was an asthmatic reaction (I am not asthmatic) where the lining of the lungs got irritated by something, the reaction to that irritation was to cough. The cough itself then caused further irritation and made me cough, repeat ad nauseam. I did not believe her but agreed to take the inhalers. The cough was gone in less than two or three days. However, in the current circumstances, ANY new, prolonged cough should be treated with suspicion and be presumed to be the virus. Get yourself tested, even if just for your peace of mind. Doc Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Doc Democracy said: However, in the current circumstances, ANY new, prolonged cough should be treated with suspicion and be presumed to be the virus. Get yourself tested, even if just for your peace of mind. Yeah, what he said. Better safe and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Utah had 495 new cases yesterday, the second highest single day so far. On the other hand, nine rural Utah counties (comprising 3% of the state's population) are moving from yellow to green status. Salt Lake County remains at orange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Huh. I just noticed something with Brazil, over on worldometers... First...lucky them, they cracked 1M cases. Second, and far worse IMO...they've only tested 2.3M people. So 43% positives? France is at 11, Sweden 14. Ecuador, Mexico, Egypt, Guatemala, Bolivia, Brazil, and Afghanistan all have rates exceeding 33%...strongly suggesting far, far more cases are out there in those countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Ternaugh, TrickstaPriest, assault and 5 others 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Old Man said: I always thought the Turtles must smell horrible from living in a sewer. And have an atrophied sense of smell themselves which enables them to tolerate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Actually, I don't know how much tortoises use the sense of smell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 14 hours ago, Ragitsu said: Here I am, ducking in for layman medical opinions (very wise, yes?). With any luck, I'll be gone before I feel an urge to linger. I know that some strains of mold can cause respiratory issues if a person is subjected to their spores over a protracted period of time. Mold won't be ruled out, but I find it unlikely that I have started coughing regularly and fiercely if I have been inhaling spores for quite a while. Is it possible to developing a coughing fit that lasts a few days to a week if you inhale relatively low quantities of dust? I wasn't in a tomb or some disused shed, but I was present when a moderately dusty room had a disused corner disturbed by movement. Otherwise, I've kept to the homestead and practiced physical distancing on the rare occasion I do speak to someone face-to-face. Any packages I receive are left to "quarantine" for at least a week. My hand-washing routine has been rigorous enough to make Mr. Monk green with envy. P.S. I don't possess any allergies (as far as I know) and I'm not asthmatic. Possable, but a dry cough is a symptom of concern. Can you take a temp? if you have one that is not an allergy, i think. Your med provider should have an info line, and/or a web sight. I hope you are fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Ragitsu should get tested but it is unlikely that he would receive his results prior to reaching the ten-day point at which things can suddenly go sideways. Unfortunately there is not much to do with an early case of the covid except sequester yourself, monitor your temp and pulse ox, and maybe take some famotidine that may or may not do anything. That said, there could still be other explanations for a cough. Allergies can spontaneously appear and disappear. Prolonged mask wearing can be hard to get used to. I've had self-perpetuating dry-cough laryngitis cases that lasted for weeks. And a dry cough is one symptom exhibited by Kane after embryo implantation by the alien facehugger. Has Ragitsu been aboard any derelict alien spacecraft lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Oh, I totally forgot to ask: Ragitsu, can you still smell and taste? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 As hospitals get overrun, this CDC page tracking state-by-state ICU bed occupancy may become useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 20 hours ago, csyphrett said: Depends on what the dust was made out of in the first place. Have you been coughing for a whole week? You might want to get this checked in case you have something like Bronchitis. CES Every kind dust makes my nose run if stirred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Cancer said: Actually, I don't know how much tortoises use the sense of smell. How dare you claim to be an academic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 As coronavirus cases rise in Victoria, how do we know when a second wave is starting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 8 hours ago, assault said: As coronavirus cases rise in Victoria, how do we know when a second wave is starting? There's no reason to think the first wave ever ended. Don't look local, look global, or at least broad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 19 hours ago, Old Man said: Ragitsu should get tested but it is unlikely that he would receive his results prior to reaching the ten-day point at which things can suddenly go sideways. Our ED gets results back in a few hours now, so the lead time varies from place to place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 The wife got tested June 12th, late in the afternoon and got her results online first thing next morning. She was negative btw. TrickstaPriest and tkdguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 23 hours ago, Cancer said: Actually, I don't know how much tortoises use the sense of smell. Based on how they themselves smell, my guess would be "not much" or they'd have died out as species long ago. ☠️☠️☠️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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