Old Man Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hermit said: If I read it right, the poorest are still pretty #$##ed? The poorest of the poor, yes. I don't even know how they'd get you the money if you have no address or tax records. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I'm waiting for the shelter-in-in-place order that seems inevitable in Portland. That would mean that if you can;t work from home, you can't work. I've been on pins and needles all week waiting for that hammer to fall. It has ruined my ability to work outside the home. A shelter-in-place order might even be desirable even if I do go stir-crazy. Imagine a nation where nobody is able to work. Nobody. Because other than the personnel these orders deem as "essential", that's going to be all our fates, at least for the duration. But what is going to be remembered about this crisis ten years from now? Still, terrible though this is, it could have been a lot worse. In 1918-19, another pandemic swept the globe and threw the world, just recovering from the Great War (aka World War 1) into a literal death spiral as millions globally lost their lives. The early 20th Century wasn't exactly the best time to be alive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I'm not too thrilled about the early 21st century either. Italy still going strong, putting up another 430 deaths to exceed China's reported fatality total. Stories of Italian military convoys needed to remove bodies from city centers as mortuaries are unable to keep up with the pace of cremation. Meanwhile the U.S. case rate now exceeds Italy's at the 16-day mark, as newly approved equipment starts to make a dent in the testing backlog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Old Man said: Yeah, I can't find a real link either. You'll have to take it with a grain of salt. Funny how easy socialism is when one's reelection is at stake. 14 minutes ago, Hermit said: If I read it right, the poorest are still pretty #$##ed? Like me. I did not file a tax return for 2018 because I had no taxable income that I could keep track of. So i won't get a check. But if I did, it would do them no good. Because if the GOP is trying to buy my vote, I have no interest. Besides, how much is $1,200 going to buy when there's nobody around to sell anything? And guess where the money for those checks is going to come from? The poor will always be the losers. Even in the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, the working-class (for whose benefit the whole revolution was supposedly staged in the first place) ended up much as they were in pre-Soviet times -- or, depending on which histories you read, possibly much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Old Man said: I'm not too thrilled about the early 21st century either. At least we've got the Internet and forums to complain on. Hermit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Michael Hopcroft said: Like me. I did not file a tax return for 2018 because I had no taxable income that I could keep track of. So i won't get a check. But if I did, it would do them no good. Because if the GOP is trying to buy my vote, I have no interest. Besides, how much is $1,200 going to buy when there's nobody around to sell anything? And guess where the money for those checks is going to come from? The poor will always be the losers. Even in the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, the working-class (for whose benefit the whole revolution was supposedly staged in the first place) ended up much as they were in pre-Soviet times -- or, depending on which histories you read, possibly much worse. Yeah. I know. I am by no means eager to see Soviet style situations come to America. And I admit, it would be nice to get a bit of money I could send to some loved ones who need it more than I do (They have debts I don't) but I admire your conviction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 hours ago, RPMiller said: Sacramento County just got hit with a shelter in place order starting at midnight tonight. No non-essential personnel or travel is allowed to further extend the efforts of social distancing. Looks like martial law is slipping in ever so slowly without being called that. We need to be careful about using that term -- it has a specific definition which is very unlikely to apply for practical reasons, and has provocative implications that could cause conflict. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 The doctors at covidtrial dot io have apparently come up with a solid treatment using already available medications. Granted the sample size is small, but the results look amazing. Hermit, Vanguard and Lord Liaden 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Apparently, my schedule calls for me to work straight through till next Thursday. So, heads up, if the alien come to conquer Earth, I'm selling out humanity. Corona is going to kill me, even if I don't catch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 My co-worker was really pulling for us to be sent home today on a mini-vacation, but our boss relayed the message that IT techs are considered essential staff, and we're probably going to work through much of our shutdown. Many of the folks in other "non-essential" departments are finalizing their wrap-up, and won't be joining us again until we get an all-clear to reopen. Our lunch today was in the Cafe, and Chef made us some awesome meals, though it's probably boxed lunches from now on, as there won't be a lot of folks still on property every day. It had a bit of a Jurassic Park ice cream vibe to me, as we were offered various treats to go with our meals. We noticed that the ever-present background music was turned off when we went to do some computer maintenance after lunch on the floor. Now, the silence is only broken by the occasional disabled slot machine still running its programming to attract non-existent guests, or the creaking of a still-rotating signboard, its video display already turned off. I'm probably going to have to carry my earbuds for when I go on the floor, just so that I can have a little background music and drown out the ghosts. Steve, ScottishFox and Old Man 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Michael Hopcroft said: I'm waiting for the shelter-in-in-place order that seems inevitable in Portland. That would mean that if you can;t work from home, you can't work. I've been on pins and needles all week waiting for that hammer to fall. It has ruined my ability to work outside the home. A shelter-in-place order might even be desirable even if I do go stir-crazy. Imagine a nation where nobody is able to work. Nobody. Because other than the personnel these orders deem as "essential", that's going to be all our fates, at least for the duration. But what is going to be remembered about this crisis ten years from now? Still, terrible though this is, it could have been a lot worse. In 1918-19, another pandemic swept the globe and threw the world, just recovering from the Great War (aka World War 1) into a literal death spiral as millions globally lost their lives. The early 20th Century wasn't exactly the best time to be alive... Though it has occurred to me since Spanish Flu, we have been somewhat spoiled on the pandemic front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Hermit said: Yeah. I know. I am by no means eager to see Soviet style situations come to America. And I admit, it would be nice to get a bit of money I could send to some loved ones who need it more than I do (They have debts I don't) but I admire your conviction Yeah, the money send off, would make more sense once things clear up somewhat so people could actually go out and spend. Of course, I'll likely put it in the bank (though, we could use a fridge with a reliable freezer, so maybe not) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 I was watching a "let's player" on YouTube playing the just-released demo for the remake of the video game, Resident Evil 3 (disease seems the theme of the month). At one point as zombies were closing in on her, she complained, "Come on guys, coronavirus! We need social distancing!" You have to take laughs where you can find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 maybe we can blame video games like usual (I blame Resident Evil's influence for our panic) 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Pariah and Lord Liaden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Coronavirus doesn't only affect old people; in some places half the ICU cases are under 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Apparently the Coronavirus is going to very painfully remind people that smoking is bad for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Old Man said: Eat him. With a spoon. I can't trust their how-to documents to be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, ScottishFox said: Apparently the Coronavirus is going to very painfully remind people that smoking is bad for them. Smoking and Vaping. The last 6 months or so, there was already major concerns being raised about Vaping causing respiratory illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Well, the conservative government is looking more socialist as time goes on... Quote government is to pay 80% of wages for employees unable to work due to the coronavirus pandemic, up to £2,500 a month, the chancellor has announced. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51982005 There would be outrage if a Labour government did this.... 🙂 Doc Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 "Only Nixon could go to China." Ternaugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Daily new case count and fatalities in Italy continue to increase. 600 deaths, nearly 6000 cases today. The U.S. case count trajectory has left Italy's behind and is approaching Spain's. 3000 new cases today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 50 minutes ago, Doc Democracy said: Well, the conservative government is looking more socialist as time goes on... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51982005 There would be outrage if a Labour government did this.... 🙂 Doc There are no atheists in foxholes; and everyone's a Socialist when they need the government's help. Tom Cowan, Pariah and Lee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 On the super positive side they've run case studies in three different countries and they're having 100% success rate with Chloroquine (Malaria drug) and Azithromycin (z-pack - common as common gets). They're currently trying to race approval through the FDA and get local manufacture of the Chloroquine in the USA. This thing might be beat in the very near future. Apocalypse averted. Pariah and Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Relief bill might actually happen. There is also discussion of mandating a yearlong pause in mortgage payments for people whose mortgages are backed by Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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