Cygnia Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 pinecone, Pariah, Grailknight and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 59 minutes ago, Cygnia said: *Sigh* Too true. 😟 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 ‘The war has changed’: Internal CDC document urges new messaging, warns delta infections likely more severe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Matt the Bruins, Grailknight, rravenwood and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 pinecone, Pariah and Tom Cowan 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BarretWallace Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Cygnia said: That such disclaimers are even necessary makes me want to crawl to the bottom of a bottle of whiskey and never come back out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 hours ago, BarretWallace said: That such disclaimers are even necessary makes me want to crawl to the bottom of a bottle of whiskey and never come back out. You can go to normal discussion forums of news sites and find a number of people pushing Ivermectin as a COVID cure and telling everyone that the vaccines are some sort of poison and completely unnecessary even if they weren't poison. There's big money in denialism and pushing the next quack cure. And it's absurdly easy and cheap to hire a media company to promote your conspiracy theory and drive traffic to your website. You don't even have to sell the cure to make money off of creating a conspiracy theory around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 And of course, get a coupe doing it, and they'll start echoing each other...and get cited elsewhere...and create their own positive feedback loop. I hadn't seen that, but it is seriously ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 I've said it before and I'll say it again: Sometimes natural selection takes too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 The irony of anti-vaxxers who say they "don't want to be part of some experiment" is that they have made themselves part of the control group. Tom Cowan, Lord Liaden, Pattern Ghost and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 A third of the last week's new cases are in Florida and Texas FWIW, the two states have about 18% of the population of the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 According to WorldOMeters, the 7 day rate in Florida reached a level quite close to the January peak. It's increased by a factor of 6 in the last month. Texas isn't as bad. And for the record...California has more than Texas. Their new case count is far, far below the winter peak...but it's also about 6x higher than a month ago. Looks like California's per capita rate is slightly higher than Texas. A broader data view is here:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage Opinion piece by Alex Azar here:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/opinion/covid-vaccine-safety.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage And it's interesting that Sean Hannity is pushing vaccination. Mind, it's still Fox News and there's still the counterweight of de facto deniers like Laura Ingraham. But as Mr. P points out, the anti-vaxers have made themselves into an excellent control population...and the data is undeniable that their choice is very risky. I have to believe this is what's causing the movement. We're also seeing an uptick in new vaccinations. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cowan Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 And for Florida https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-gov-desantis-unvaccinated-people-testing-positive-for-covid-2021-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 DeSantis has chosen to double down on his position toward anti-vaxers. Either he's an idiot surrounded by idiot advisers (not impossible), or more likely, he still sees political advantage in maintaining this stand while Floridians sicken and die and hospitals are overwhelmed, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 hours ago, unclevlad said: Texas isn't as bad. And for the record...California has more than Texas. Their new case count is far, far below the winter peak...but it's also about 6x higher than a month ago. Looks like California's per capita rate is slightly higher than Texas. No, California and Texas have roughly the same 7 day moving average for total new covid-19 cases, despite the fact that California has 36% more people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Ranxerox said: No, California and Texas have roughly the same 7 day moving average for total new covid-19 cases, despite the fact that California has 36% more people. It looked a bit higher for Cali even accounting for that, but I was just eyeballing. But the bigger point is the NPR story is misleading. Sure, call out Florida; that's totally deserved. But if you're gonna call out Texas, you have to call out Cali as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Liaden Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 And what doesn't kill it makes it stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 Or maybe just sneakier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 It's like email phishing schemes that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 Strength shouldn't be measured by force alone. Sneakiness is a definite survival advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Sad news continues from Brazil. Broke 20M cases. Getting pretty close to pass the US in total deaths; the gap unfortunately closed a great deal in the last 4 months. It was about 270,000 in mid-March; it's about 70,000 now. Fortunately, they are showing a notable decline in new cases and deaths over the last couple months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, unclevlad said: Sad news continues from Brazil. Broke 20M cases. Getting pretty close to pass the US in total deaths; the gap unfortunately closed a great deal in the last 4 months. It was about 270,000 in mid-March; it's about 70,000 now. Fortunately, they are showing a notable decline in new cases and deaths over the last couple months. I suppose it makes sense. We got rid of our COVID-denying president seven months ago, Brazil is still stuck with theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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