unclevlad Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Story in the NYT this morning...the Federation of State Medical Boards is suggesting their member states to consider penalties, including revoking licenses, for doctors who spread disinformation and lies about Covid-19. The AMA calls doing so a violation of medical ethics. The damage has already been done, but hopefully this'll happen. I'd rather it went further, but it'd be hard to charge these scammers (and they are profiting from it) with the serious charges I think they deserve. Joe Walsh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Pattern Ghost, Cancer, Joe Walsh and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Seen in passing today: a mask will take away your freedom but so will a casket. Pariah and Tom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 A mask is a temporary inconvenience. Death is permanent. (I imagine a ventilator is rather more uncomfortable than a mask as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Tom said: (I imagine a ventilator is rather more uncomfortable than a mask as well) And a bit more expensive. Delta Airlines announced that they would start charging an extra $200 a month to employees who have not been vaccinated. This may not withstand legal challenges, but the reason? The average hospital bill to Delta from Covid-19 has been $50,000. And everyone who had to be hospitalized, had not been vaccinated. $50K buys a lotta masks...and a new truck along with em... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asperion Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 The only thing that I have about masks is that they (especially the disposable) have an appearance of separation. With so many people coming out with masks that are rather fancy, that's been making it so that I would consider going for one even after the restrictions are permanently removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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archer Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unvaccinated-unmasked-teacher-spreads-covid-19-elementary-school-students-cdc-n1277852 No printable words to describe my reaction to most of the story. But then there's this part at the end of the story where the CDC basically admits that a 72% vaccination rate in the county isn't enough to stop community transmission...which is what I've been saying since March 2020. If you have a virus that's as infectious as measles, you need a 90%+ vaccination rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 3 hours ago, archer said: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unvaccinated-unmasked-teacher-spreads-covid-19-elementary-school-students-cdc-n1277852 No printable words to describe my reaction to most of the story. But then there's this part at the end of the story where the CDC basically admits that a 72% vaccination rate in the county isn't enough to stop community transmission...which is what I've been saying since March 2020. If you have a virus that's as infectious as measles, you need a 90%+ vaccination rate. I hear ya. My printable reactions... #1: Can the teacher be fired? Probably not. Can the teacher be sued? Also probably not The grounds for either or both, tho, are the fact that she went to work *knowing* she was unvaccinated and suffering from symptoms that *could be* Covid. #2: That school district had better pass a vaccine mandate ASAP. If it takes an emergency board meeting, call it now. #3: ANY board member who doesn't push for a mandate now should be the subject of a recall election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 There's certainly been a lot of goalpost moving with the CDC guidelines since the beginning. Sure doesn't seem to be helping with compliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 It probably hasn't helped, PG. The problem is, this virus was only identified in 2019. The CDC and virologists generally have had to learn about it on the fly, and base their advice on the best science available at the time. Two things making that harder are the virus's knack for mutating into something even worse, and the refusal of so many people (in the US and some other countries) to follow medical advice, altering the environment for the virus to thrive in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Starlord, aylwin13, Grailknight and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 I saw this today and thought it good enough to share. Source is: 'Freedom Cafe' description is a perfect response to arguments against mask requirements - Upworthy "Welcome to the Freedom Cafe! We trust you to make your own choices if you want to wear a face mask. And, in the same spirit of individual liberty, we allow our staff to make their own choices about the safety procedures they prefer to follow as they prepare and serve your food." "We encourage employees to wash their hands after using the bathroom, but understand that some people may be allergic to certain soaps or may simply prefer not to wash their hands. It is not our place to tell them what to do." "We understand that you may be used to chicken that has been cooked to 165 degrees. We do have to respect that some of our cooks may have seen a meme or a YouTube video saying that 100 degrees is sufficient, and we do not want to encroach on their beliefs." "Some of our cooks may prefer to use the same utensils for multiple ingredients, including ingredients some customers are allergic to. That is a cook's right to do so." "Some servers may wish to touch your food as they serve it. There is no reason that a healthy person with clean hands can't touch your food. We will take their word for it that they are healthy and clean." "Water temperature and detergent are highly personal choices, and we allow our dishwashing team to decide how they'd prefer to wash the silverware you will put in your mouth. "Some of you may get sick, but almost everyone survives food poisoning. We think you'll agree that it's a small price to pay for the sweet freedom of no one ever being told what to do - and especially not for the silly reason of keeping strangers healthy." Tom Cowan, Tom, Pariah and 6 others 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 QAnon Anti-Vaxxer Called COVID a Hoax Even as His ‘Lungs Stopped Functioning’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, Cygnia said: QAnon Anti-Vaxxer Called COVID a Hoax Even as His ‘Lungs Stopped Functioning’ "Doctor Darwin ... paging Doctor Darwin ..." aylwin13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 "The virus doesn't care whether you believe in it or not." unclevlad and aylwin13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cancer said: "The virus doesn't care whether you believe in it or not." Quoted for truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Ragitsu and Lord Liaden 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pariah Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Those who fail to learn from history blah blah blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Lawnmower Boy and tkdguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Spokesman For National Religious Broadcasters Fired After Pro-Vaccine Remarks During TV Appearance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Cygnia said: Spokesman For National Religious Broadcasters Fired After Pro-Vaccine Remarks During TV Appearance The story has the group's CEO trying to justify the action. Worth reading in and of itself. Another story here: https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/august/daniel-darling-fired-nrb-covid-vaccine-morning-joe-usa-toda.html?utm_medium=widgetsocial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 This might sound like it's NSFW, but it really is. It occurred at a board meeting of the Dripping Springs Independent School District on Monday, and the recording has since gone viral. Grailknight and unclevlad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Cygnia said: Spokesman For National Religious Broadcasters Fired After Pro-Vaccine Remarks During TV Appearance Funny, a week ago Sunday, our Bishop got up at the end of the service and pleaded with the congregation to get vaccinated and to wear masks so that we wouldn't have to go back to having church over Zoom. Different perspectives, I guess. 1 hour ago, unclevlad said: The story has the group's CEO trying to justify the action. Worth reading in and of itself. Yeah, sorry Mr. Miller, but you're a tool. You're a tool, you're a tool, you're an enormous tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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