BoloOfEarth Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Hospital being forced to give dewoming drug to COVID patient. I guess guzzling bleach didn't work. Though I liked seeing this part: "As part of the complaint filed to the judge, Julie Smith signed a full release that relieved West Chester Hospital of any liability related to the ivermectin treatment." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 BarretWallace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 52 minutes ago, BoloOfEarth said: Hospital being forced to give dewoming drug to COVID patient. I guess guzzling bleach didn't work. Though I liked seeing this part: "As part of the complaint filed to the judge, Julie Smith signed a full release that relieved West Chester Hospital of any liability related to the ivermectin treatment." Well, there's a judge who needs to be recalled in the next election cycle. Sadly, this being Ohio, it's highly unlikely that that will happen. Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 People who don't trust doctors when they say COVID vaccines are safe and effective, are turning to a livestock anti-parasite drug they read about on somebody's blog. I can't follow the mental gymnastics required to get to that place. But what incenses me is that people with supposed medical degrees are actively promoting a medication for this virus for which no evidence exists that it works, that hasn't been government approved or even studied by qualified doctors for this purpose, that has known risks and contraindications especially for seriously ill patients, and which may interfere with other treatments that could actually help. Where in Hell did these people get their training?! This is an affront to fundamental principles of science and medical ethics! pinecone and L. Marcus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 An article in the August '21 Harper's may help. It's primarily about the recent fad for quoting Hannah Arendt re: fascism, totalitarianism, and lies by governments. (Summary: People quoting Arendt to condemn Donald Trump are mis-applying what she wrote.) But one subject is about the state of mind people often fall into when they have been lied to about something big, or lied to many times: a condition of all-encompassing disbelief and cynicism. Anything might be a lie, and probably is; the effort to sift truth from falsehood is futile; so while nothing is true, anything is possible. Though this goes beyond the article, it follows that the normal, sane standards of competent authority are turned upside down. The more the source of a claim is perceived as an established authority, the less it is believed -- because the Establishment, of whatever kind, must be lying to maintain its position of presumed power. Conversely, the suppressed message is more likely to be true, precisely because it is suppressed. Ad if you don't know anything about the subject, whether it's science, medicine, or what-have-you -- how are you to recognize deranged nonsense when you hear it? Why wouldn't a malaria drug, a deworming drug, or, heck, shooting up with bleach, be effective against Covid? (Or, getting back to Arendt, why wouldn't you believe a blustering madman who claims all your problems are caused by Jews? [Hitler] Or counterrevolutionary capitalists? [Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot] Or Communists? [McCarthy] Or gays, or Central American migrants, or witches. You are the perfect citizen for a totalitarian state and its world of ideological fantasy, because you will never break and say, "No, this isn't true.") Unfortunately... Between government, political provocateurs and advertising, we swim in lies. And I suspect we all know it. Is it any wonder that some people drown? Dean Shomshak unclevlad, Pariah, Lord Liaden and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 "Rogue antibodies" involved in almost a fifth of COVID deaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 WHO Tracking ‘Mu’ Variant That May Resist Immunity From COVID Vaccines And Past Infections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Direct from the UN about the mu variant CDC's variant proportions tracker -- data updated weekly, last updated for week ending August 28. Mu is not on that tracker as I type this. Looking at that proportions tracker ... it tells you quite directly how fast a virus evolves. In mid-June the delta variant was roughly a quarter of all infections. A month later it was over 80%, and in the last update it was over 99%. I don't find anything on the CDC site today mentioning the mu variant. I expect that will change soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Yes, encouraging people to wear a mask does help ... as does the mask-wearing itself. Preprint (not peer reviewed; I don't know if there should be a "yet" there. The preprint says nothing about possible submission to a journal.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 Matt the Bruins, DShomshak, Pariah and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 At firat I read that as "you took his dweomer" and was confused. Too much D&D, I guess. Dean Shomshak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 You had company in that. Hey, we're gamers on a gaming website looking at a medieval illustration. Where else are our minds going to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 http://ffn.nodwick.com/ffnstrips/2021-09-02.png Tjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 The people I talked to at work are scared the vaccine will put them in the hospital because one of their friends was hospitalized after being vaccined and they blame the vaccine, or they don't trust the government (at least Biden's government) CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 Germany through 4 million cases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 Britain and Russia through 7 million cases. India through 33 million cases. Turkey through 6.5 million cases. Colombia through 125,000 dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 None of it matters. People literally need to be dropping dead in the streets for anyone to care. We're that far gone. Sigh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 Pariah, IndianaJoe3, Matt the Bruins and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 Opening para of an opinion piece in the NYT today, written by a Christian member of the faculty at Duke Divinity School: Quote Religious exemptions to employer mandates are a precious right in our democracy. This is why it is especially important not to offer such exemptions to coronavirus vaccine mandates. They make a mockery of Christianity and religious liberty. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/06/opinion/religious-exemptions-vaccine-mandates.html Pariah, Hugh Neilson and Matt the Bruins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 Hermit, Lawnmower Boy and Pariah 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 5:05 PM, BoloOfEarth said: Hospital being forced to give dewoming drug to COVID patient. I guess guzzling bleach didn't work. Though I liked seeing this part: "As part of the complaint filed to the judge, Julie Smith signed a full release that relieved West Chester Hospital of any liability related to the ivermectin treatment." New news on this front: Judge says Ohio hospital cannot be forced to use ivermectin to treat Covid, reversing earlier decision Among the comments from this judge: Hamilton County Common Pleas Judge Michael Oster Jr. wrote that there “was no doubt that the medical and scientific communities do not support the use of ivermectin as a treatment for Covid-19.” unclevlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cowan Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/idaho-enacts-plan-to-ration-care-as-covid-19-cases-surge That is bad news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Tom Cowan said: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/idaho-enacts-plan-to-ration-care-as-covid-19-cases-surge That is bad news Thank the anti-vax crowd. There are 5 states with less than a 40% vaccination rate...they're all quite similar, percentage-wise (39.8% to 39.3%), and the lowest in the country. West Virginia, Idaho, Mississippi, Alabama, Wyoming. What's exacerbating the problem is burnout. It's been 18 months of relentless, intense pressure in the ICUs, so...we can't be surprised at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 Toronto high school student suffering from long COVID: 'I'm scared that it's not going to go away' Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord Liaden said: Toronto high school student suffering from long COVID: 'I'm scared that it's not going to go away' This virus is going to be intensely studied for years to come. Yes, there's the "thank you, Captain Obvious" angle to that statement; treatments and preventatives will be a huge subject for some time. But it's also a very bizarre disease, where medical researchers will want to investigate what it does, how it does it, why it does things like this in a small number of cases, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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