unclevlad Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 hours ago, BarretWallace said: Ugh. Some of my family plan to travel to LA for a concert next month. Is it wrong if I quietly hope that the show is canceled? It's possible things will have calmed down by then...South Africa's seen a rapid rolloff, so it's plausible...but there's no way I'd fly while both weather and Covid are shredding schedules. I would also think long and hard before attending any large-scale gathering. I might do it...if it was a bucket list event, that wasn't going to be repeated. Generally? Not a chance. Not while omicron is rampaging around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 'Very unsettling': Scientists see troubling signs in humans spreading Covid to deer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Guys, you gotta stop the beer-and-poker sessions with the muledeer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Cygnia said: 'Very unsettling': Scientists see troubling signs in humans spreading Covid to deer To date, COVID-19 has been documented in cats, dogs, mice, mink, deer, tigers, lions, ferrets, otters, various primates, deer, and of course bats. There is some evidence that Omicron evolved in mice. This many animal reservoirs means that the threat of new variants will remain everpresent until broad spectrum vaccines are developed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 *sighs* Cyprus reportedly discovers a Covid variant that combines omicron and delta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 So once we run out of Greek letters, what's next? Anybody up to date on the Hebrew alphabet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 I still think the next variant should be called "Loki"... Pariah and BarretWallace 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarretWallace Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 21 hours ago, Cygnia said: I still think the next variant should be called "Loki"... That would be an excellent choice, because one can never be certain of what Loki is really up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 22 hours ago, Cygnia said: I still think the next variant should be called "Loki"... And then the Alligator Loki variant after that...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 OK, there might have been some contamination involved with "deltacron". COVID-19: Is 'Deltacron' a new variant? A UK virologist explains what it could possibly be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 I haven’t found anything in the literature in this variant yet. I have a bit of a problem with the assumption that it would take weeks for a recombinant to appear, though. Recombination between two strains is a function of probability and the way Omicron spreads we are making a lot of dice rolls. Still, I haven’t seen anything in the literature either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 *sobs* Anti-Vax Leader Urges Followers to Drink Their Own Urine to Fight COVID Lawnmower Boy and pinecone 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 I hope he's reminding them to mix it with bleach first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Cygnia said: *sobs* Anti-Vax Leader Urges Followers to Drink Their Own Urine to Fight COVID In case you're a tad cynical about the Daily Beast....this goes back a few months, but it's the same PoS:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/19/walmart-christopher-key-anti-vaccine/ So...I couldn't find any confirmation about Cygnia's story per se...just echoes...this certainly supplies plenty of general corroboration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Pariah said: I hope he's reminding them to mix it with bleach first. No no, the bleach must be taken intravenously. It's ivermectin and hemlock that should be mixed with the urine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Cygnia said: *sobs* Anti-Vax Leader Urges Followers to Drink Their Own Urine to Fight COVID I have to wonder whether some of these people are just pranking the anti-vaxxers. "Hey, I got it! Why don't we suggest they inject bleach!" "Ooo! That's a good one. But that could be kinda lethal. I know, how about we see if we can get them to drink their own piss!" "Yeah! And next week, we can say that eating their own poop will work too!" rravenwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 Or announce: "Raw Grated Manioc Root: Permanent Immunity to COVID" Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Covid: Quebec to impose health tax on unvaccinated Canadians https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59960689 Cancer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Quebec is experiencing a particularly nasty Omicron surge, but resentment of lockdown measures is seriously building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 It's so damn frustrating to me, with peoples' attitudes toward lockdowns and preventative measures. I think of my dad, who lived through the Great Depression and World War II. Heck, he managed to go to college at the end of the Depression, working at a spaghetti company to help pay his way while taking classes. Then having to interrupt his studies to go fight in WWII. When I think of all he had to go through... and I'm being asked to wear a mask, give people their space, and stay in my home. If that's the worst I have to suffer, geez, I'll take it. To paraphrase something Robert Fulghum once wrote, people need to realize whether something is a lump in their throat, a lump in their potatoes, or a lump in their breast. Ranxerox and Joe Walsh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 I'm sure lockdown fatigue is very real. And entirely understandable. Over and above the feeling of privilege that's rather pervasive...as we've pointed out, we've completely lost the understanding of just how dangerous infectious diseases typically are. This is the first time in the memory of probably 95% of us where an infectious disease caused a long-term problem. Sure, there've been nasty situation...Legionnaire's, for example...but that was never broad. Ebola was a horror story that happened somewhere else. We have to go back, I think, to measles. Because...guess what...in the US at least (and I suspect in most first world countries), vaccination is mandatory to go to school. So...the risk and consequences of measles have been swept up, tossed into the trash, and taken out to the dumpster. Shorthand? Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Fair bit of discussion this afternoon on NPR. Earlier versions of Covid have been targeting the lower respiratory area, which means serious complications/ventilation requirements are notably higher. Omicron stays up higher, so it's a lot less likely you'll hit the hospital...but it spreads a lot easier. (This might also explain why it bypasses the existing vaccine relatively readily. Different enough structure is suggested by the fact that it prefers a different part of the body.) But that means you've got a push and a pull effect...very much higher case rates, lower severity. And unfortunately, based on the numbers...the case rates are more important. The hospitals are more strained than ever. GOOD news here: hospitalizations are shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 I tell my students every term, as someone who had measles (and mumps, and rubella, and chicken pox) before there were vaccines against any of those, what the disease does. It is the horror of the disease that impels the vaccine to be developed, for people to want it. And among my early memories is standing in a line most of the way around the block to get vaccinated against polio, and my feelings about are posted in a different thread here. Grailknight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Lady P got a saliva test done on Sunday night. We're still awaiting the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarretWallace Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 I hope that Lady P gets a negative result and that all of you stay healthy. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Hoo boy.... We crossed the 300 million case number a while ago...and at this point, we can barely see it in the rear view mirror. According to WorldOMeters...over 18 million new cases worldwide *in the last week*. Yeah...highest we got before was a tick over 900,000 new cases a day. Right now it's pushing 3 million. I never got measles. I vaguely remember getting the vaccine tho, as a kid. I did get mumps...hadda be around 5 or 6, I'm pretty sure, because I remember which house we were in. There was just NO QUESTION, tho, back then...we stayed home, we isolated. End of story. If you want a reminder...Ancestry.com used to offer a trial period, or even pay for it for a bit. Chase down your family tree. When you're getting back into the 18th and 19th centuries...start looking at how many of the kids never made it to their teens. It can be quite the eye-opener. Or look at things like life expectancy estimates back then. Most of em exclude deaths under the age of 2, in that even today, the risks are higher in that period, and they'd skew the data badly. The biggest changes in life expectancy come when the childhood diseases stop being a massive threat, I believe. You can also search cause of death statistics. Unfortunately, the anti-science, anti-vax crowd won't care. Joe Walsh and Tom Cowan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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