2020-2021 NFL Thread

[pinecone]

8 hours ago, Starlord said:

Apparently, Cam Newton arrived to the game the other day as the mountain climber from Price Is Right

 

Did he lose a bet?

[unclevlad]

Probably not;  it's Cam being Cam.  

[Cancer]

"Feast Mode" handing out turkeys in Hawaii

[Badger]

8 hours ago, pinecone said:

Did he lose a bet?

Cam Newton just thinks he is fashionable.

 

Everybody else thinks he is the 3 year old whose mother let him dress himself.

[unclevlad]

12 hours ago, Badger said:

Cam Newton just thinks he is fashionable.

 

Everybody else thinks he is the 3 year old whose mother let him dress himself.

 

Mmmm...I think Russell Westbrook fits that description a bit better.  I'd call Cam's Rebel Without A Clue.

[Old Man]

Four teams play tomorrow.  Ravens-Steelers has been postponed to Saturday or Sunday because covid.

[Starlord]

Tom Brady is no longer getting a pass for his ‘bush league’ antics

[unclevlad]

8 hours ago, Old Man said:

Four teams play tomorrow.  Ravens-Steelers has been postponed to Saturday or Sunday because covid.

 

Steelers were going to have fans at the game;  a ban kicks in *Friday* on outdoor gatherings.  Yeah, well, I call it karma.

 

Ravens will have 7 players out.  The offense isn't clicking that well to begin with, so...this is not encouraging for their chances.

 

EDIT:  oh, and I find it entirely apropos that NBC replaced the game tomorrow night with a dog show.

 

[unclevlad]

So I saw the score in Turkey Bowl round 2...looked at the box.

 

What...?

 

Did they...???

 

Good googly moogly.  Is McCarthy TRYING to get fired?  4th and 10 fake punt inside your OWN 25?  With 13 minutes left and only down 4?????

 

THEN run it as a freaking end around, putting the WR WAY in the backfield and giving the defense TONS of time to react.  

 

I'll concede win probability has issues, but still, it's useful in a broad sense.  Figure that the 4th and 10...punting the ball back wouldn't change the win probability.  Faking the punt and succeeding has to work BIG...like, midfield, probably...to seriously raise the winning chance.  Not making it immediately dropped their win chance QUITE a bit...and obviously the touchdown (way, way too likely) pretty much ended it.

 

TERRIBLE choice, worse execution.  

https://thespun.com/nfl/nfc-east/dallas-cowboys/look-jerry-jones-reaction-thanksgiving-loss

 

Among MANY others.

[unclevlad]

So Lamar Jackson is out for the Ravens, which means 8 starters are out due to Covid.

 

Their practice facility is closed until Monday as a result, according to Adam Schefter, and that of course would seem to mean the game can't be played.  No statement so far.  Whatever the league does, seems to be a mess.  Play?  Ravens will be massively undermanned and poorly prepared.  My gut expects the league to say postponed, MAY be played in week 18 , but that's TBD.  If there are several such games, then maybe they mess around with the week 18 games.  If not, then perhaps the game's just declared a no-contest.  THAT, tho, raises the specter that the game result might be very significant for making the playoffs.  And if the Steelers have the #1 seed, and the Ravens are out, then the game can be cancelled with no real repercussions.

[Pariah]

Wouldn't something like that trigger the inclusion of a #8 seed?

[Old Man]

There was already discussion of adding teams to the playoffs so that’s definitely on the table. The Ravens outbreak is spilling over into Week 13 now, since apparently they were supposed to play Dallas next Thursday. 

[Pariah]

15 hours ago, unclevlad said:

So I saw the score in Turkey Bowl round 2...looked at the box.

 

What...?

 

Did they...???

 

Good googly moogly.  Is McCarthy TRYING to get fired?  4th and 10 fake punt inside your OWN 25?  With 13 minutes left and only down 4?????

 

THEN run it as a freaking end around, putting the WR WAY in the backfield and giving the defense TONS of time to react.  

 

I'll concede win probability has issues, but still, it's useful in a broad sense.  Figure that the 4th and 10...punting the ball back wouldn't change the win probability.  Faking the punt and succeeding has to work BIG...like, midfield, probably...to seriously raise the winning chance.  Not making it immediately dropped their win chance QUITE a bit...and obviously the touchdown (way, way too likely) pretty much ended it.

 

TERRIBLE choice, worse execution.  

https://thespun.com/nfl/nfc-east/dallas-cowboys/look-jerry-jones-reaction-thanksgiving-loss

 

Among MANY others.

 

Here's the video of the play in question:

 

 

I think we can all agree that this typifies not just the Dallas Cowboys, but the entire NFC East, in 2020.

[Cancer]

I think that video, and indeed the entire NFC Least, belongs in the Fail thread.

[Pariah]

Done.

[unclevlad]

3rd time's the charm?

 

Ravens-Steelers NOW scheduled for Tuesday night.  Which means Ravens-Cowboys gets dumped out of TNF to late Monday afternoon kick (5 ET).

 

Lamar Jackson's clearly out against the Steelers;  I think it's close if he might make it back for Dallas.  But with, what, 8 starters out, the game against the Steelers is almost a lost cause...and if they can't get the starters back, the game against the Cowboys becomes something of a toss-up.

[unclevlad]

Not surprisingly, after getting taken behind the woodshed by another just mediocre team overall...at home, on a featured national broadcast no less...the Lions fired both HC and GM.  FiveThirtyEight rates them as 5th worst team in the NFL, virtually tied with the Cowboys, with the Jags a bit behind, then the chasm before finally sinking all the way down to the Jets and Bengals.  In that order;  the Bengals are rated lower because Burrow is out.  (Indicative:  the Giants are -6 against them today.  The *Giants*.)

 

Looks like Dan Quinn is probably the most likely next coach to be fired before the end of the year, if anyone does.  You could say Gase but if they haven't canned him before this, you have to think they won't do it during the season.

[unclevlad]

The league has to be getting really worried.

 

--Denver has no QBs who can play tomorrow;  all 3 are on the Covid list for testing or contacts.  If no one gets cleared tomorrow, you would think the game can't be played, at least Sunday.  

--AND, the league has directed all facilities to be closed Monday and Tuesday;  the plan is to try to catch any cases picked up from Thanksgiving activities.  Games don't count.

[Pariah]

22 minutes ago, unclevlad said:

The league has to be getting really worried.

 

--Denver has no QBs who can play tomorrow; 

 

...or any other day, apparently. 

[Badger]

On 11/26/2020 at 10:51 PM, unclevlad said:

So Lamar Jackson is out for the Ravens, which means 8 starters are out due to Covid.

 

Their practice facility is closed until Monday as a result, according to Adam Schefter, and that of course would seem to mean the game can't be played.  No statement so far.  Whatever the league does, seems to be a mess.  Play?  Ravens will be massively undermanned and poorly prepared.  My gut expects the league to say postponed, MAY be played in week 18 , but that's TBD.  If there are several such games, then maybe they mess around with the week 18 games.  If not, then perhaps the game's just declared a no-contest.  THAT, tho, raises the specter that the game result might be very significant for making the playoffs.  And if the Steelers have the #1 seed, and the Ravens are out, then the game can be cancelled with no real repercussions.

The undermanned, does make me think, too bad.  But, then there is a danger of the other team getting contagion and possible unnecessary injuries to the clean Raven players, if enough players cant be scavenged off the practice squad.

 

 

 

23 hours ago, unclevlad said:

3rd time's the charm?

 

Ravens-Steelers NOW scheduled for Tuesday night.  Which means Ravens-Cowboys gets dumped out of TNF to late Monday afternoon kick (5 ET).

 

Lamar Jackson's clearly out against the Steelers;  I think it's close if he might make it back for Dallas.  But with, what, 8 starters out, the game against the Steelers is almost a lost cause...and if they can't get the starters back, the game against the Cowboys becomes something of a toss-up.

Sort of good news for the Cowboys to get extra rest.

 

If the team wasn't a complete FUBAR at this point.

[unclevlad]

18 minutes ago, Pariah said:

 

...or any other day, apparently. 

 

There is a difference between playing, and playing competently.  The league isn't concerned with the latter, only the former.

 

Oh yeah, and I forgot to note...local rule in the county is no contact sports, trying to prevent the spread.  Also impacts Stanford.  If things get uglier with the feared post-Thanksgiving surge, local restrictions like this could easily pop up in many areas.

[Old Man]

Right now Denver’s QBs for tomorrow would be WR Kendall Hinton and/or RB Royce Freeman. 

[unclevlad]

18 minutes ago, Old Man said:

Right now Denver’s QBs for tomorrow would be WR Kendall Hinton and/or RB Royce Freeman. 

 

I wonder if Vegas has taken this game off the board....

 

EDIT:  nope.  Line went from Saints -5.5 to Saints -14.5...one of the biggest spreads of the year.  Over/under went from 45.5 to 36.5...and the writer suggested the under at that, which I think is right.  I don't think there will be many plays;  the Broncos will seemingly have to try to run the ball, ergo, darn near running clock as long as they have the ball.  I'm thinking something like 23-6...which is comfortably under.

[Pariah]

43 minutes ago, Old Man said:

Right now Denver’s QBs for tomorrow would be WR Kendall Hinton and/or RB Royce Freeman. 

 

If I recall correctly, this will make the tenth starting quarterback the Broncos have had since Peyton Manning retired 4 1/2 years ago.

[Old Man]

Not gonna lie, I kind of want to see this game. Except for the injury risk to the players.