Christopher

Re: Superpowers and Ethics Passing through intervening space is a Disadvantage for Teleportation. Not being considered a crime/unethical is an advantage, and a big one. Your blast example is counterproductive: Blasts, Images, Entagles.... they can all archive similar things as mind controll, mental illusion and mental blast. So why should an SFX give Mind Controll the Advantage of not being percieved as any of those powers: Great infringement on the physical and/or psychical wellbeing of the target?

Re: How To Delay Effect Anyway, consinder something like "Physical Manifestation" with the right special effects. Damage over Time with only one Damage Instance is also a way to go and it even provides sugestion on how the "DOT" can be stooped. Useable on others may be a far cry, but it gives rules on how to "give" powers to others, like the ability to grant flying to others. May not be the right thing, since pillars rarely want to explode (but how about a summoned zombie suicide bombing squad?) For some special effect a different aproach may be suitable: Perhaps the character just has to tag/paint the target and once he has accuired all, he multifires/autofires the (indirect) damaging power. Perhaps with some kind of Constant, No End Clairsentience. Or somehow using the targetting abilites of a mind scan/detect (only what he touchend with intention to blow up) for this.

Re: Superhuman women less attractive in 6th Edition? You mean: "It did nothing in the games I used to play"? Others have time and again showed that they could use it effectively. The other stats were most likely clearer defined in their effects. Either trough rules, or common conception (what you can do with STR is pretty clear). About the professor: Bad choice. INT may be the base for you INT-based skills, but it doesn't has to be (you can just take a 11- base throw and go from there). It says so right in the description for INT.

Re: Superpowers and Ethics

Re: What sort of technology do you use in yiour games? I know some GM's on conventions, who use laptops for good effect. Just load up a die roller and rolling hidden becomes easy. When properly equipped and used, they can replace a gm-screen + written pages. The downside is, that the gm can become to focussed on the screen. On most other games I play, on-place-gizmos usually are impractical for us. We often don't even have the place for our character sheets on the table. Glasses, chips, minatures and co ususally take up the rest. And the glasses are a real treath to electronic devices... Of course, the music collection is always near. Be it a simple CD-Player (yes, they still exist), a MP3-Enabled Player or a Desktop/Laptop plugged into one of the former or good speakers. And in preparation for a game, not using a computer at some point is unthinkable (for both gm and players).

Re: American Dream character, getting out from dust Wich is exactly what I don't want some of my power to do. I have asked Steve Long about it, maybe there is such a rule that everybody overlooked. And if everything else fails, there are always the Limited Power Guidelines (but I prefer "official" ruling every time). About the Kiss, here are some more thoughts: Advantages: Alternate Combat Values (OCV vs. DCV +0), since the "lockup" is not mentally, but physically. Limitations: Only while Grabbing the Target. I have no Idea what that would be worth. It could simply replace the damage of a choke (you only grab the head).

Re: Superpowers and Ethics Using wealth is bribery (the skill). Using "I am a rich guy" is a bonus to charm is most circumstances. And please stop using ultra-multi quotings. Reading them is a test of patience, and hardly suiteable for a discussion

We had a lot of discussion about Mind Controll in some threads. I would like to know if there is any existing limitation that let's you limit the maximum effect of the Mind Controll? Basically like these examples: "Subliminal Message", Mind Controll, Only up to EGO "Sugestion", Mind Control , Only up to EGO+10 "Command" (from D&D), Mind Controll Only up to EGO+20 (Order "die" means he only plays dead).

Re: American Dream character, getting out from dust No. It's there to controll the actions of someone. Damit, I want to be able to copy the "Command" Spell from D&D. I seriously put that on the list for the next APG.

Re: Superpowers and Ethics It is certainly more tempting to abuse, than a fire blast or PRE attack (since that could be identified and judged by court as Threating or Assault). This also aplies, at some point, to the magic in shadowrun. They solved it by adding the rule that a magical action leaves "residue". Ironically that way a mage spills even more evidence across the room, that a berserker with a dozen cuts and whirwind-attack. To make "hiding ones trail" possible, they allowed to "erease" the magic aura, given enough time (wich is not always that plenty in SR). So, how about we just "adopt" that concept to HERO? One thing that also disturbs me a little bit, is that there seem to be no "Maximum Effect" Limitation for MC and Mental Illusion (at least I found none). Such a rule would allow to build very effective/result save EGO+10 attacks, without the chance (or risk) to archieve EGO+30.

Re: Superpowers and Ethics I think a lot of the discussion was initally started by one Misconception on the Part of Hugh:

Re: American Dream character, getting out from dust No, I am uncomfortable with a Love-Power that makes you kill your wife (of course, superhuman induced love can make you do that). Also, sometimes all I want to archive is a EGO+10 effect. I had this idea for an "Angro-Power" for a brick: Must attack User; Only up to EGO+10. That way he would target the user, even if you couldn't really do damage. But could still flee (EGO+20) and it wouldn't force people to attack you when they don't want to fight (EGO+30). And I think MC would be a lot less problematic for most GM's, if it could be build with that limitation.

Re: Superhuman women less attractive in 6th Edition?

Re: Damage Negation: how much?

Re: Superhuman women less attractive in 6th Edition? I don't know COM at all, but from what I heard so far it's arguably how often any of the mentioned characters could actually use Sexy Presence Attacks/Charms. Also, Striking Apereance can also mean being intimidating. I have no idea if this could be archieved with lowered COM. And you can still get bonusses for Sexy-Presence attacks/charm with some things like Apropirate Setting/Right tool for the Job (Sexy Dress ), Genuine Need, "Target is in Retreat" (a single in a single bar). On the other Hand, Tarkofanes may get -4d6 allone for Bad Reputation (you know he really wants to kill you), -3d6 for being in the wrong mood and I would even go so to say any character has a Total Psycholigcal Complication "No Nekropilia" (another 3d6), that is not listed because of the really low game relevance.

Re: Damage Negation: how much? Do you mean 10-12 PD/ED + 6/6 DC Damage negation?

Re: 6th Edition Brick It took me over a week, but finally I have a draft (it is not really complete, but it tells you where she goes): Landslide: 25/60 STR +15 12 DEX +4 20/30 CON +10 13 INT +3 10 EGO 13 PRE +3 7 OC +20 7 DCV +20 3 OCMV 3 DCMV 5 SPEED 30 7 PD 5 7 ED 5 15/24 REC 11 50 END 6 13 BODY 3 60 STUN 20 15 Running 3 4 Leaping 0 0 Swimming -2 (sinks like a stone....) 156 Defenses will come in one of theses configurations: 7 Normal, 3 Resistant 7 Normal, 18 Resistant (5 of wich cost endurance); 7 Normal, 8 Resistant, -6 Damage Negation (including the 5 wich cost endurance) Constant Powers (Survivalist, Silicon Based Physiology): 4 Knock Resistance -4m (Heavy Template) 2 LS, Extended Breathing: 1 End/Minute 1 LS, Diminished Eating: once per week 1 LS, High Pressure 2 LS, High Radiation 2 LS, Intense Heat 1 LS, Longelvity: doubled Lifespan 10 LS, Immunity: To all terestial Diseases and Poisons 8 Regenration (1/Hour; 8 AP) 9 "Tough Skin" 3 rPD/rED, 9 AP 10 Power Defense Total: 50 Limited Powers (all unified -1/4; maybe "personal limitation", see Notes): 8 +10 CON (10 AP), Unified(-1/4) 7 +9 Recovery (9 AP), Unified(-1/4) 28 +35 STR, 35 AP, Unified(-1/4) 23 Increased Regeneration (adds to normal; Total of 2/Turn w/ Regrow Limbs or 37 AP;effective 29 AP), Unified(-1/4) maybe Endurance to Maintain and/or Concentration (not ceratin jet) 5 Steadfast: Knockback Resistance -6m (for a total of 10m), Unified(-1/4) Total w/o Limitation: 71 64 80-Points multipower Reservere, all Slot Unified(-1/4) (and mybe "Personal Limitation" also Part of the "Limited powers"): 7v Superspeed Run (+45m = 60m, 2x Noncombat), 45 AP, Unified(-1/4), 36 RC 1v Strong Leap (+16m = 20m, 2x Noncombat) 8 AP, Unified(-1/4), 6 RC 5f Just like a walk in the rain DC -6/-6 (60 AP), Unified(-1/4), 48 RC 5v Impenetrable Body: 10 PD/10 ED, Resistant (+1/2) 30 AP, Unified(-1/4), 24 RC 1f Subconcious magical shielding: 5 PD/5 ED, Resistant (+1/2), 15 AP, Cost Endurance to Activate(-1/4), Unified(-1/4), 10 RC (mostly as a NND protection) Total Cost for Multipower: 83 Current Total Costs: 360 75 Disadvantages: 10 Phys Compl., Weighty 20 Code vs. Killing, Common, Total 25 The Gang (DNCP, Normal, Frequently, Group of four People) Note: A small gang she prevented from bullying people. Are after her to "even the score" but don't have the means to do her any harm. Oblivious to danger and so they need to be saved whenever they pop up... 15 Polarizing Presence (Distinctive Features, Concealable, Always Noticd Major Reaction, Easy Detection) Note: A little bit like the "gorgeous" example, but is not based on atractiveness but simply her presence (unless se sucessfully disguises). Stops if Magical Powers are drained/affected by Power Limitations since it is somehow based on them. 5 Public No-Name ID (Infrequently, Minor) Note: She can not hide her ID effectively, but is also new to this side of the world and is thus considere "mostly unknown". Background: {Highly suvivalist, silicon based and magical infused critter found it's way to our earth. Either from space, or alternate earth} {Sabrina Meier was a comming artistic gymnastic, on her way to joining the german olypics team} {Sabrina was attacked by the alien/alternate earth critter, but it was defeated by a nearby hero} {On dead, the final survival reaction kicked in: The a part of the blood became alive and "merged" with the first creature it could find -Sabrina} {As she got concuios again, her body was transformed it a half-silicon based lifeform and her density has increased to the piont that she weights 400 Kilogram} {As a Metahuman she was not allowed to continue a olypimc sports career. Besides, the equipment had difficulties with her new weight (wich doesn't stopped her from trying anyway)and her new body made all her former training useless} {On the plus side her body was now superhumanly strong and durable, wich is even augemted by her personal magic effect} {After the change, there was little left to do for her and she deceided to become a superhero. After sufficcient training, she sets out to "campaing city" to do some good} Apereance: Her physique is still that of a slender, human woman. But her skintone is grey, and "veins" of white cristall are everywhere on the surface. Her irises are silver. Also, she weights a lot more than she looks like. Clothing/Hair changeable: She can create and change both personal clothing and hairstyle at will. This is not really Hair or Weave, but rather a form of metal (she dubbed it "Phoenix Metal"), formed into thin metal weave. The collor patterns are limited (brown to black, ) and regardless of form it does not provide any in game bonus (can't help hide, no termal resistance). But the clothing is as tear resistant as questionite and naturally "clings" to her body if she want's it. She can't form items and removing the clothings/hair or chaging to a different set results in them just "burning" away in a heatless fire (hence the name). Powers/Tactics: She's a land based brick. She has two sources of powers her mutation/silicon based organism. And the inner magical powers that further increase her physical abilites. Despite beeing magical, these powers are mostly self sustaining once "locked in" and there is currently no know way to use them on others. Another noticedable ability, is that her body "adapts" to adverse conditions when subjected to it (she has a lot of NND defenses and they are going to be more...). Her main weakness however, are cold and low pressure/vacuum. In battle she has one distictive weakness: She has no distance attack (aside from "Objects of Oportuniy") and thus has difficulties with fliers. Note: I uses the "Heavy" Template, for about 400-799 Kilo of permanent density increase. "Personal Limiation": Part of her Weaknesses may be that her powers do not work in cold environment, low pressure environment and (potentially) vs. Cold Based Attacks I am not certain yet how exaclty cold/low pressure affects her. What I know with certainity is: It kicks in, as soon as she leaves the comfort zone downward (starts loosing rec/end). Possible ways (severity gardes) it could affect her: - Just the magical powers go. They can stop bullets, but cold or thin air just washes them away. Makes her a competent normal at best. In this interpretation, she may herself have the LS Cold/vacuum but her "Limited Powers" have the limitation that they don't work in that environment. (Only Limitation) - Physical effect, low: Her body is the one affected by cold/low pressure but imedeatly starts using the magic to counter its effect. Basically the sequence DRAIN (all her unified powers), then STUN, then BODY for a Susceptibility disadvantage. (Only Susceptibility) - Physical effect, high: Like Cryptonite. Instant loss of powers and ongoing damage (STUN, then BODY; but more around the time peroid for rec/end loss from environment). (Limitation + Susceptibility) Things I also consider to give her: Martial arts (Grab, throws, punches). But first I have to read through that part of the rules. A double knockback for (parts) of her STR, but not when using objects to hit (unarmed, HTH and non-Killing only). Tremor Sense, Passive (Targetting Sense/Detect based on Touch; Could skip the flash resistance for that). Megascale Tremor Sense, Concetration (0 DCV); Highly Optional, and only if GM thinks it fits.

Re: Damage Negation: how much? Worthwhile, unless there are no people with DN. As one of the attacks in a Multipower when I know there are some DN enemys, of course. But never built one.

Re: Counter-stereotyping A time traveller who has neither super tech (or the ability to build some), nor knowledge of what is going to come: "I only changed parts when they needed to be changed, I didn't build them. And History was so boring because of Mr./Mrs.{incarnation of boring History-Teacher Archetype}."

Re: Tenure as a perk Either way, it is Questionable for the characters future development. "The path to hell is paved with good intentions."

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Re: Mega Knockback in 6th I thought this was still about the x000d6 Knockback Damage or x km comeback-distance. For that, I am pretty sure the Autor did anything to say: Knockback + Megascale = "Not what I had in mind". Also, even if I am rigth about it, there is this standing option to ignore/rewrite rules in the name of dramatic sense. Heck, you don't even need megascale to do this. Just define (as Campaign Rule) that knockback-distance per body, Knockback resistance and damage go in steps of 10m instead of 2m, with no extra cost or other changes to the rules.

Re: Limitations on Combat Skill Levels - same as the attack itself? Right. And they even affect all caracteristics rolls. And from a certain point of view, Penalty Skill levels fall into that area too.

Re: Tenure as a perk That's the interesting part: No. Not more than he was while using it any other time along the road (EP 1-3). Because it wasn't his decission to be there. He just followed the force (the heroic story). Using the force to get a transport from the gungans, trying to get the hyperspace parts and freeing Anakin from Slavery: He was guided there by the force, he was literally send there to do this. The most noteable part is, when he alowed vader to kill him: The force said it was time to leave the world, and he left. What anakin did to the sandmen? That was Darkside action. Not because of the hate, but because he followed his emotions (contrary to silencing them and listening to the force).

Re: Limitations on Combat Skill Levels - same as the attack itself? So, you wouldn't treat characteristics like powers, unless they are conceptual powers either? I don't see the difference between a +30 STR in Characteristics-Points and +30 STR from a Power with no Limitations. I agree with Hyperman in that CSL's are effective Limited +OCV. Or a +OCV, +DCV, +Damage Multipower, with flexible Slots. The fact that the best cost's 10 points, the allocation time(0-Phase) and intervall (once per Phase) pretty much says "Multipower with 10 Points Reserve".