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Re: Gravity is gone?

Re: Gravity is gone? Would the inertia of the solar mass be a factor when the expansion would be happening at a molecular level? I mean those are some abusrdly hot molecules pushing against one another. Without gravities pressure I would imagine the entire mass rapidly expanding fueled by superheated molecules explosively pushing against one another. How much pressure would 15MK of heat have against a object that has its primary binding force removed? I am asking hoping you know, because I don't I am just speculating.

Re: Gravity is gone? Well I certainly cannot argue with the math since admittedly I am out of my depth. But I have to ask, what about the effects of inertia from the initial expansion? Would gravity, which if I remember correctly as a primary force of nature is extremely weak compared to both thermal and electromagnetic effects. Also in your computation is the sound speed of gas its expansion in a vacuum? Your example was using the temperature of the photosphere. What about the Sun's core? Without Gravity to keep the solar mass compressed wouldn't the extremely hot and dense core expand. That would be alot of inertia gravity would have to overcome. I would image a one second expansion of a star's core would generate some incredible energies. Interesting thing to ponder though.

Re: Gravity is gone? Heat expands. Without gravity to counter the heat generated by the fusion reaction the sun would expand really really fast. My guess even a one second lapse would be sufficent to upset the balance and start a very, very, violent expansion. Nova.

Re: Polishing The HERO System You guessed right hehe. I am getting the feeling this has been discussed before in these forums.

Re: Polishing The HERO System Because it is the "official" Handbook. And that it is impossible to design a accurate character from the comics. Hero's strengths and abilities fluctuate wildly from writer to writer and year to year. So instead of holding on to a issue you read five years ago as a baseline for the "Things" strength it seems more logical to use what marvel has said is the official strength level. Even if they break thier own rules it is at least what they concieve the character's power level "should" be at.

Re: Polishing The HERO System Wow DC's system sounds horrible. What I was basing my numbers on for MU characters were those Marvel Encyclpedia issues they came out with in the 80's. About the same time Secret Wars was running. My interest in comics took a nosedive after that, but I remember they had some hard numbers for lifting ability. If anyone has those issue or knows what I am talking about please ket me know I would love to pick them up again. Regardless, it seems alot of people are happy with the ways things are and I just wanted to get others opinions on that game mechanic. Incidenlty, no way Batman can lift 800kgs without pushing. Sorry, not buying it. I would think twice about using a game system like DC heros as Canon for my campaign, sounds like it is made for a younger crowd.

Re: Polishing The HERO System Well that explains a big part of our difference of opinion. Using standard STR charts in CHampions I would place Thing at 55 str, Thor 60 str, and Superman 100 str. Remeber with the ability to "Push" they could increase thier lifting power and quadruple the amount they could strain and lift. A 55 STR thing would place base lifting STR at 50 tons with pushing he could lift 200 tons. A 60 str THor would be 100 tons with pushing could lift 400 tons. And Supes 100 str 25 thousand tons with capability to lift 100 thousand tons. A 100 str in the standard rules is absurdly strong. According to your examples. Thing could lift 6.4 Thousand tons. Thor, 400 thousand tons. And Superman, in the millions on tons. Not pounds...Tons. Absurd. Even without pushing. You think The Thing can lift thousanads of tons? He is like a middleweight brick in MU. I think he could break 100 tons lifting if someone life or his own was depending on it, but a normal "deadlift" is well under that.