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Re: Infinite Crisis I thought Pariah couldn't die? Isn't that what it says in COIE? Also, Anyone else think the only Kal-L is back is to kick Kal-EL in the cape and make him realize what he is supposed to be again, a hero. It just dawned on me while reading this thread, Superman has been acting real super post-crisis, just not real heroic, I mean, they had to "kill him" in order to make him be heroic. And post crisis, I know I have a problem with Kal-El, I just couldn't put my finger on it, and this is what it is. He isn't a hero anymore, he is going through the motions. I remember pre-crisis, I never had that problem with Kal-L.

Re: Stat suggestions for a spy-mouse? Lets see, a spy mouse, well, the mouse needs to wear a eye patch and a white turtleneck. (BTW Dangermouse comes out on DVD soon, rush to amazon now) Seriously though, I like the clairsentience bit better than the duplication bit. Just need appropriate disadv to simulate the critters abilities.

Re: My First Character Build -- Comments Appreciated Seems that way, I'm working on a character right now as well. As far as the underlying design philosphy, I'm thinking it comes from years of playing Hero System. Kind of like I know how to build a mech in Armored Core to do what I need it to. But, I've been playing Armored Core since 1994, so I know what I can do with which parts. Same type of scenario, just little nuances that we as new players aren't going to get until we have been playing for a while.

Re: Rip it to shreds pt. 2 Its actually 15 presence, didn't get that one in there My moving dcv will be 22? Does that include just moving during combat? And his name is Velocity-9, , hence all the 9s everywhere, lol. Now, onto the expierence part, what would bve a good starting recovery? 15?, 20?, 18? 19? And I don't mind dropping the CSLs. It was just an interesting thought and thats what I came up with to simulate moving so fast he is hard to hit.

Ok, after some retooling, and tinkering with your ideas. I think I've come up with a servicable speedster. I did borrow heavily from you guys, relying on your expierences playing Hero System and I thank you for your suggestions. Now, the stuff I put in the EC, I know it can be drained, but keep in mind, I want this to be a regular guy, who is gifted with superspeed. He doesn't even fully know how to use his powers yet, so I'm staying with some simple ones. If his ec gets drained, well, he is him without his powers. And somewhere I read that movement/def should be in an ec and attacks in a mp so I tried to stay with that to make it simple for me. Velocity-9 15 str 5 29 dex 57 19 con 18 10 body 13 int 3 10 ego 12 com 1 3 pd 4 ed 9 spd 51 29 rec 44 38 end 28 stun 30 EC:Speed Movement > 37 Flight 23", x8 NCM, Useable as running(+1/4), Reduced End(1/2 END, +1/4) 84 Active Points, Only in contact with Surface(-1/4) 30 Inertial Barrier:FF (20PD/10ED/10 Flash DEf:Sight Group)(Protect Carried ITems), Reduced End(0END, +1/2)(75 Active Points)Only while moving(Must make at least a 1/2 move each phase, -1/4) 18 Missed Me: +12 DCV CSL Only while moving(Must Make a half move each phase, -1/4) 60 active points < 52 MP:Speed Tricks > 1u Quick Healing:Aid 2d6, body or any other drained physical characteristic or power (+1/2)(30 active points), Self Only(-1/2), Only restores to starting values(-1/2) 2u Second Wind: Aid 3d6+1,[two powers] simultaneously(Stund and END, +1/2), Self Only (-1/2), Only restores to starting values(-1/2) 2u Dizzying Spin: Drain DEX 2d6(20 Active Points) --(This is a beautiful Idea, Thanks alot for this one) 3u Flurry of Blows: HA +7d6, Reduced End(0 END, +1/2)(52 Active Points), Hand to Hand Attack(-1/2) -- (I did this as one big hth so I wouldn't have to roll multiple attacks a phase, I did that in the DCU game and it can really slow the game down when your doing 50 attacks at a target ) 4u Vibrating Punch: HKA 2d6(2 1/2d6 w/STR), Armor Piercing(+1/2)(45 Active Points 3u Wind Blast: EB 7d6, Explosion(cone -1dc/2", +1/2) (52 Active points) Gestures (requires both hands, -1/2) -- (Still thinking about making this a full out explosion with the advantage that I can change it sshape so I could make a whirlwind by running in a circle as well as the burst of air, not sure about it though) 4u Vibrate Through Objects:Desolidification(40 active points)(Must be able to run(-1/4) 1/2 END (+1/4) < 3 Lightening Calculator 4 Speed Reading x10 5 Cramming -- ( I Kept this to allow V9 to quickly assimalate book knowledge using his speed reading, I know it doesn't stay with the character, but it might be nice to run down to the library and read about destroying a bridge and then going and doing it if needed. ) 2 SS:Computers 2 PS:Teaching 3 Scholar > 1 KS:colleges (2active points) 1 KS:Computer Tricks (2 active points) 1 KS:Movies (2active points) 1 KS: Video Games (2 active points) < 5 Computer Programming 3 Electronics 5 Oratory 5 Money: Well Off I still need to do disadvantages. I'll work on them later. But this will be the base of the character. Thanks for your help again guys. Some of the things you guys pointed really makes a lot of sense for someone super fast to be able to do. By my count, I'm at 411 points total. Is the math right on this? I double checked everything using the heropower calc spreadsheet and good ol PnP math and it seems right. Prof p.s. I looked everywhere for Z'lf, but couldn't find him. And I'm really not trying to copy off you guys, although it seems like I did. But I would like to see how a real high lvl speedster is built.

Re: Hey guys... CSLs don't cost end do they?

Ok, I've almost got V9 right where I think I want him, lol. But in the BBB I can't find the cost to buy dcv, do I need to buy itas a CSL or is there a cost to buy just straight DCV? Prof

Re: Here it is....rip it to shreds.... Still going through all this, comparing how you guys see it with how I did it. I'm going to be reworking slightly as I saw end as a conecern after talking with MitchellS and some of you guys in the last thread. Probably going to be incorporating some of your ideas in this. Course, some of the things you guys see I wouldn't have noticed since I have never played, ilke, I would have though a 7 dc would be decent. Thats ok, you learn as you go along. Prof

Re: Here it is....rip it to shreds.... Ok, I smacked myself. I did most of the math, power calculations using the power calculator spreadsheet located elsewhere on this site. I also used one of the character sheet spreadsheets on hee that total up your points spent, figure your dcv, things like that. Abything messed up, yeah, I take full blame for not being able to add - lol - Lots of great information here, and no, V9 isn't finished, still a work, its gonna be a bit before the actual campaing starts. My GM is in the process of getting a 5E book to replace the BBB. These ideas are all very, very good. Much closer to what a speedster should be without all the clunkiness I have built into V9 atm. Keep the ideas rollin, gonna be a day or so while I go through all this and try to understand why you guys made some of the choices you made on powers and stuff. Thanks for the help guys. Prof

Re: Here it is....rip it to shreds....

Ok guys, here is my character for the game my buddy is going to run. Its the first character I have ever attempted to make for an actual running game. I still have about 13 xp left, I'm probably going to be spending that on end. And yes, I did borrow the Inertial Barrier, but it makes so much sense for a speedster to have something like this. And this is only a 350 point character with , 75 points disad cap. Velocity-9 ValChar Roll BasCosMaxPts. 15 STR 12 - 10 1 20 5 20 DEX 13 - 10 3 20 30 20 CON 13 - 10 2 20 20 10 BODY 11 - 10 2 20 0 10 INT 11 - 10 1 20 0 10 EGO 11 - 10 2 20 0 15 PRE 12 - 10 1 20 5 12 COM 11 - 10 0.520 1 6 PD 3 1 8 3 5 ED 4 1 8 1 8 SPD 3 4 90 12 REC 7 2 10 14 40 END 40 0.550 0 28 STUN 1 45 0 Movement Description Run 6 Race Human Swim: 2 Height6'2 Gender M Jump(L): 3 Weight160 Age 28 Jump(H):1.5 Secret ID 15 Code vs Killing - Moderate 10 50 Multi-Power (Speed Tricks) 4 Wind Blast vs Physica6D6 2 > End 1/2 cost (+1/4) > Gestures (-1/4) limitation > Explosion (+1/2) 7 Vibrating Strike vs P3D6 4 > Armor Piercing (+1/2) 4 Flurry of Blows 8D6 2 > Hand to Hand Attack (-1/2) > End 1/2 cost (+1/4) 4 Move through Objects 2 > Desolidifacation > End 1/2 cost (+1/4) > Must be able to run (-1/4) 63 Super Speed Running 2 > Flight 22'' > x8 Non Combat Movement > Useable as running (+1/4) > End 1/2 cost (+1/4) > Must touch surface (-1/4) 10 Inertial Barrier - FF 10 PD/0 ED > 0 End (+1/2) > Only Versus Move-by /Move-Through Damage Inflicted On Self (-1/2) 3 Lightning Calculator 6 Lightning Reflexes +4 4 Speed Reading 5 Computer Programming +1 5 Cramming 3 Electronics 5 Oratory +1 2 PS: Teaching 2 SS: Computers 5 Money : Well Off $500,000 2 KS: Computer Tricks 2 KS: Video Games 2 KS: Movies 2 KS: Colleges He is going to be a Teacher at a college. Computer sciences. Haven't worked out how he got his powers yet, but, I have a feeling it will involve a field trip to a facility that has something to do with radiation and computers running the containment and then a leak. Thats how far I am. Advice?, Criticsm? Anything I did blatanly wrong? Prof

Re: Disadvantages.... Yeah, wish I had my BBB still. So when I had questions I can cross reference.

Re: Disadvantages.... Thats what I thought after reading the 5e book. But I had a nagging thought that in the big blue book it said something different. I'll just blame it on age.

Ok, I read where a character may take up to however points are specified in disadvantages. I think I remember in the big blue book that you had to take that many points in disadvantages. Who wants to set me straight? Prof

Re: WWYCD: Let the Hunt Begin!! Velocity-9 -- umm, lets see, 10 minute head start, at 500 some odd mph, gives me, how big is the hunting area again? Prof p.s. Thanks for all your help guys, still gotta add skills but V9 is just about finished and ready for perusal.

Re: Quote of the Week from my gaming group... Last session. In a town where they don't like outsiders, the sorcerer decides to charm the lady at the general store in order to find out information. He finds out there is a roving bad of people who come in on full moons (werewolves) and steals money, goods, whatever. He wants to stay and fight (we are all 4th level) and his reasoning? "How bad can it be?"

Re: Orgasmo, how would you do his gun in the hero system Presence Attack?

Re: Can someone explain.... So MitchelS, you think I may run out of end? Is my cost on this right, I can run for 2 end at full speed, and, I can use my flurry of blows for 2 end, right? Course, that gives me 2 turns. Although, I could be completey wrong Prof

Re: Can someone explain.... And yes, after careful looking at explosion, and some begging with the GM, I could use it to do cones as well. So going by that, it makes more sense to use explosion over area effect.

Re: Can someone explain.... AH, I see my mistake, I added in the NCM after I had done all the limitations and advantages. That gave me 63. When I add it in first, I get 65.

Re: Can someone explain.... Ok, someone help me with my math. I tried to run the exact same limits that MitchellS used on his flight where he has 65 points written down. I keep coming up with 63 total points. I gotta be messing up on the ncm, to do x8 should cost me 10 points, correct? because to double from x2 to x4 thats 5, and to double from x4 to x8 should cost another 5, right?

Re: Can someone explain.... Looking at the explosion, seems like that might be better for a running in circles whirlwind type attack. I'm gonna want the whirlwind blast, where you whirl your arms and create a straight burst of wind. So would it be better to go with the area effect, any area, and be able to use one multipower slot to do both? Seems like it would. Also, I was thinking, everything except the flurry of blows attackand running should cost normal end, seems a little more balanced to me. Prof

Re: Can someone explain.... Whats the actual formula for ncm?

Re: Can someone explain.... Yeah, went back through it and I found my error there. Still a work in progress.

Re: Can someone explain.... Question -- With x8 ncm, does that mean I'm really at x10 since I get the first x2 for free and I bought x8? Prof