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Re: The "Classic" Elements "In his stoichiology Aristotle adopts the four elements, or radical principles, which Empedocles introduced. He teaches, however, that the celestial space is filled with a body different from the four elements. This seems to be the part assigned by him to ether.{64} Ether, then, is neither a fifth element entering with the other four into the constitution of the terrestrial world, nor, as is sometimes maintained, an undifferentiated substratum, like the apeiron of Anaximander, from which the four elements originated. It is the constituent of celestial bodies. The natural motion of ether is circular; that of the other elements is upward or downward, according as they are naturally endowed with lightness or with heaviness. It is hardly necessary to remark that until Newton's time there existed the belief that each particular body moved towards its own place, upward or downward, in virtue of the light or heavy elements which it contained." http://www2.nd.edu/Departments//Maritain/etext/hop11.htm

Re: The "Classic" Elements You left out ether. Earth moves downward, water to slightly above it, air to above that, fire goes straight up, and ether moves in circles (it's what the heavenly bodies were supposedly made of.)

Re: Weapon Designs -- opinions wanted

Re: The Five What a great idea!

Re: The Five Please, I have got to know the Limbots and the Coulterites.

Re: Legion of Super-Pets Thanks a lot for the input. I think I'm going to go with the giant skeleton hound idea. I like the image of a 50-foot-tall cadaverous zombie hound who can breath great gouts of flame and cold (that is, heat-ray vision and super-breath). I'm going to try to write up the first one of these guys this weekend. Probably Streaky because he's got the simplest power set (in my interpretation, he's a speedster with vicious Killing Attacks).

Re: Legion of Super-Pets THANK YOU!!!!

Re: Stone/Bronze Age help Didn't the Egyptians get their ass-whupping ability from the invention of the chariot?

Re: Making a Swarm Effective Swarms are one of those things that are usually written up (from what I've seen) in a way totally unlike what they are like in real life. Another is 6D6 NND (Removal of Oxygen). I am sorry, if you remove the oxygen from around someone they start to slowly suffocate, they do not take a big blast of damage.

Re: Making a Swarm Effective Let them crawl under armor. NND HKA Does Body. Link it to a DEX and/or Running drain or Change Environment (target struggling with little beasties all over him/her).

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Re: Genres HERO GAMES may want to avoid (intended to be humorous) So basically the same as Brave New World Hero, eh? Actually I think one could run an interesting and unusual game in Dante's Inferno (sort of like what Niven and Pournelle did). Hell would be a giant fake created by aliens and peopled by genetic construct "demons" or something like that.

Re: Populating your Lost World Man, I would LOVE to see the stuff in After Man statted out. I spent hours and hours over that book in Junior High School.

Re: Genres HERO GAMES may want to avoid (intended to be humorous) Waiting for Godot Hero ("My character sits down and waits.") Brave New World Hero ("Let's all go to the orgy!") Dante's Inferno Hero ("AAGH! The Devil's chewing on me! I'm in pain! Make it stop! AAGH!")

Re: Elves I knew a linguist when I was in grad school whose master's thesis was on Pictish.

Re: Legion of Super-Pets Thanks Transmetahuman. I like that idea for Comet. Thus far I have: Beppo Muhaba Mimbe (great ape magician) The Jade Streak (discussed above) Coma (the nightmare/psychic thing) and The Crypt Hound (animated skeleton of Fenris Wolf or some other pseudomythical giant canine I will make up) I need a name for Proty. Proteus is too obvious.

Re: Batman vs Midnighter It would be sweet. Then again, if Spider-Man can beat Firelord...

Re: "Monkey Ninjas...ATTACK !!!" Ninja gizmos involving bannanas. Bannana-kin, slippery bannana pills to put enemies off-balance.

Re: Legion of Super-Pets Don't have the Bestiary, will likely never have the Bestiary. I'll think of something. Probably some sort of Entangle. I am liking the transformed housecat ideas.

Re: Legion of Super-Pets OK, here are my tentative ideas for the Dark Legion of Super-Pets line-up. I'm thinking of building them on between 500 and 800 points, depending. I'll see how it works out in the designing process. Krypto: Fenris Wolf-type, can grow to enormous sizes (how does one write up a "Swallow Whole" power?). Bleppo: Dark Priest of a Lost City of African Super-Apes. Brick with Control the Jungle powers. Don't want to Growth characters in one group, so the King Kong trope is out. Streaky: Aztec jade jaguar statuette brought to life. Scrapper with mystic powers of some sort (didn't Streaky get his powers from a ball of yarn or something? I have to factor that in). Comet: Nightmare motif (D&D nightmare, that is). Probably psychic powers, primarily. Not sure how to work in the morph to human when there is a comet around bit. Proty: Proty, the Crawling Chaos. Primal ooze predating mankind enfused with great magical powers. Metamorph with a Magic VPP as well. Probably the leader of the Dark Legion of Super-Pets. (Dark Krypto is more powerful, of course, but Proty has him on some kind of leash, ha-ha.)

Re: Legion of Super-Pets What with that, the Wonder Woman bondage obsession, and the Batman/Robin thing, I think the evidence is clear that Silver Age DC writers were sexually Just Not Right.

Re: Legion of Super-Pets Evil knows no nationality. I picture Proty as some kind of primal ooze from beyond the damn of time. Maybe he started the Legion. Although Krypto was first in comics.

Re: Legion of Super-Pets Awesome Oddhat! Thanks a bunch. Sleeping world, the Dark Legion of Super-Pets doth come on fiery paws and hooves of destruction. The day of reckoning is upon thee. Doom trots and scampers across the horizon.

Re: Legion of Super-Pets Can't rely on European myths for Beppo. No apes in Europe. I'm thinking some kind of maxed-out Lovecraftian African Ape God, as in that story the name of which I can't remember, with some Rovert E. Howard touches. Maybe Streaky can have an Egyptian theme. But cats were symbols of good in Egypt, so maybe that won't work. Some sort of big cat twisted by black magic? Aztec jaguar! That's it!

Re: Legion of Super-Pets Good idea. Or perhaps Cerberus for Dark Krypto? Dark Comet needs a multiform NCC of some sort.