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On 9/6/2022 at 12:28 AM, Old Man said:
This is starting to come across as a bit heated. Just letting you know lest you attract unwanted attention from short tempered mods.
To answer your question, the weak and crippled are welcome to join the non-gunfight with tasers, pepper spray, or other non lethal means which are impossible to commit mass shootings with.
Well tastes mayby, and chemical weapons can help. But there are Many laws limiting the purchase and,or carry
On 9/6/2022 at 5:26 AM, Ragitsu said:Or, y'know, we could fix the nation from the ground up.
A radical thought, I know.
It is radical, most efforts result "camps" and mass executions. So due care is needed.
On 9/6/2022 at 1:38 PM, BNakagawa said:Arming the vulnerable is just arming predators with an extra step involved.
Says you.
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On 9/6/2022 at 1:57 AM, Ragitsu said:
Isn't it "civilian-ist" to disallow armor piercing bullets? What if a corrupt or bloodthirsty police officer violently mistreats civilians? How are they supposed to fight back against bulletproof vests?
Well,it is. Nobody can in good faith claim that laws exist to protect the individual from society. Sometimes it works that way but seldom.
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On 9/6/2022 at 4:30 PM, Old Man said:
Widespread gun theft is a popular misconception. In reality stolen guns are used in less than 20% of crimes. Over 75% of guns used in mass shootings are legally obtained.
The uncomfortable conclusion is that legal gun owners are the problem. I’m sure very few of them acquire their guns intending for them to be stolen or used to commit murder or suicide. But in exercising their fearful “right” to arm themselves they are in reality endangering themselves along with the rest of us.
True, me need to reformat our society. And is not a task easily solved.
I am sorry to have dropped out of the conversation. I had to go visit a VA hospital for a week or so.I am using provided WiFi to pop back in.
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Quick qeustion, what is your expertese in knife fighting from? Military training? Living in bad parts of town? Please give examples to support your strong claims about "how knives work".
Lastly playing word games of is it a mass slaying, or a spree killing is honestly unworthy of you. Do you wish to find truth, or blow smoke?
Lastly you dodge the question posed, how will the weak, and disabled be protected?
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5 hours ago, Lord Liaden said:
Not really. It's disingenuous to refer to this as a "mass killing." This was a "killing spree." The victims were found in thirteen separate locations. It's extremely improbable that knife wielders could have closed with and killed that many people all at once in one area, whereas that's common with mass shootings, given a gun's greater range.
I'd also like to point out that this took place in my country of Canada, where gun laws are fairly strict, and it's much easier to obtain a concealable knife than a concealable gun.
You sound like someone who's never been attacked with a knife, or seen someone attacked. Against flesh or most clothing, strength has little bearing on damage done, it's the edge and point that do the work. Speed and skill are much more important. Unless you're talking about knifing something like a bear, with thick fur and muscle, in which case strength definitely helps.
Sadly I Have been attacked with a knife, and a machete. But I was neither small, nor weak. It turned out badly for the attacker(s)
1 hour ago, Ragitsu said:One question: do you want to live in a society where civilian gun ownership is a necessity or do you want to live in a healthy society?
Nice strawman question! Are you claiming all societies including our own are not healthy? Can you provide any example of such a healthy society? Perhaps in the vast reaches of the pacific ocean?
And who claims it is a nessesity for the strong and able? I notice your "healthy" society makes no allowances for the weak or disabled.
6 hours ago, Lord Liaden said:Not really. It's disingenuous to refer to this as a "mass killing." This was a "killing spree." The victims were found in thirteen separate locations. It's extremely improbable that knife wielders could have closed with and killed that many people all at once in one area, whereas that's common with mass shootings, given a gun's greater range.
I'd also like to point out that this took place in my country of Canada, where gun laws are fairly strict, and it's much easier to obtain a concealable knife than a concealable gun.
You sound like someone who's never been attacked with a knife, or seen someone attacked. Against flesh or most clothing, strength has little bearing on damage done, it's the edge and point that do the work. Speed and skill are much more important. Unless you're talking about knifing something like a bear, with thick fur and muscle, in which case strength definitely helps.
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5 hours ago, Ragitsu said:
One could say that, but then one would be entirely silly. Not only are firearms force multipliers, but they also making killing easier from a psychological standpoint.
Silly how so? A world without guns is a world where the strong rule, and the weak obey. Definately "able-ist". A woman that chooses to fight with a gun has a decent chance, without the chances are very poor indeed. What about disabled persons? Are they to be left to the wolves? The supreme court has found that the police have no obligation to protect, so who do you propose for this service?
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I was thinking it would be a cool No Trespass sign for a mad scientist...
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13 minutes ago, Logan.1179 said:
Doing up ribs in the Instant Pot today. Using a store-bought rub (that I didn't know I had) as an experiment. Shouldn't be bad.
Good luck! I have found my insta-pot to be the best purchase ever, at least I can't think of any....
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27 minutes ago, death tribble said:
Liz Truss is our new PM. I thought Sunak would get it. She can't be worse than Boris, can she ?
Hahahahahaha! Oh, bollocks you were serious,,,
8 hours ago, Old Man said:If knives are just as lethal as guns, then no one needs guns for self defense. They can just use a knife.
Social issues do need to be addressed, though. In America, one party seems to be better than the other when it comes to actually funding social work and mental health.
To respond again to the same post: Guns aren't more lethal per se, but they are safer to use for self defense. A weak/small/vulnerable person is generally Worse off using a knife. So one could say that advocating against guns is "able-ist".
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7 minutes ago, Old Man said:
If knives are just as lethal as guns, then no one needs guns for self defense. They can just use a knife.
Social issues do need to be addressed, though. In America, one party seems to be better than the other when it comes to actually funding social work and mental health.
I think making it a political football prevents any solution being found. Society needs to alter its norms, mental health and social work cure symptoms, not causes.
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Food for thought for pro gun control supporters. A mass stabbing. Mass killing is a social issue, when society creates outcast, society cannot expect them to follow sociatial norms. A problem we all need to find solutions for.
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12 hours ago, Cygnia said:
It's a mystery...
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Should have nixxed Humans taking 3D6 of Luck!
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On 8/18/2022 at 7:00 AM, wcw43921 said:
Too little too late. The time to stand was when he cast his vote. He acted not as a shepard, but as a sheep.
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On 8/11/2022 at 11:10 PM, Strand said:
So I am making an Angelic character with an OAF Sword. I was going to have it such that when the sword was knocked from his hand, only someone not evil could pick it up.
But I am wondering if this goes against the Accessible part of the Focus.
Maybe another question would be: How would you build Mjolnir so that only Thor or "only the 'worth'" (like Captain America in Endgame) can pick it up?
Thanks.
Just treat it as the same cost as a "personal" focus, so few will be able, and the harm if they are so low...it is basicly the same ....
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On 6/4/2022 at 9:06 AM, Cygnia said:
That bites!
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Check out Aces and Eights by the folks who do KoDT....there should be all sorts of old westy things ....
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On 8/4/2022 at 1:33 PM, Ternaugh said:
So, the pigs were only Mostly Dead?
Bacon, and True Love....two reasons to battle against death....
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On 8/4/2022 at 9:44 PM, Lord Liaden said:
It pleases me to see Gwendoline Christie having more opportunities to look beautiful, on and off screen. She's such a striking woman, but as Brienne they had to play down her looks, and we never even saw Phasma's face.
That is because they cut the Phasma and Finn madly make out scene because they wanted to play up the Rose plot line......
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5 hours ago, Cygnia said:
It's a no win sit.....
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2 hours ago, Logan.1179 said:
Zombies are supposed to be the domain of the necromancers, not the artificers!
Not in Pathfinder...;)
Political Discussion Thread (With Rules)
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This. It is a social issue, not one of control.