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Hi Steven i'm sorry to reposting this but i couldn't be able to find your previous answer dated i think 2009. In APG2 i at page 37 it states that: The Adding Damage rules apply to Telekinesis in the standard way. Thus, Telekinesis (STR 40), which costs 60 Active Points, has 12 DCs for purposes of adding damage to it. However, the GM can rule that the DCs of Telekinesis are based on the STR used rather than the Active Points, if he feels that’s more consistent and/or won’t case game problems. So my question is if this is the standard rule and if an hit of a 60ap telekinesis alone worths 12dc of damage. Thanks and sorry again for the repost

May be they are the keepers or guardians of something and pass the witness to their descendants

That's why makes sense to put on it a few limitations to balance the cost like i did with jointly linked and double endurace cost, so that the discount balances the increased cost

Yes it is a nice build but different from a free use/cooldown and doesn't take in account the possibility of multiple attack actions . Anyway it could be perfect for a different power or needing

😂😂 You are right i'm a bit finicky and i apologize for that, but all the ideas you have provided helped me in choosing a good limitation value and also to better understand the guidelines underlying the rules. I think that a custom - 1/2 or a tweak of existing limitation would do the job without the iper complicated build i thought.

Extra time is quite perfect if you ignore that if used for an attack you can't attack until it is ready for use: "Attacks are an exception: if a character takes this Limitation for a power that requires an Attack Roll, he cannot make another attack until the power’s been used (unless the GM gives permission otherwise)." I too think that a limitation that takes in account the cooldown time and a time limit together should be required and very useful in this kind of situations as ghost-angel said

I see your point, the two conditions are similar. Thanks for help and ideas!

I'm glad you agree about time limit and i have no particular issues with custom limitation but if i can i try to use existing elements, anyway this tread helped me a lot with different approaches and idea. Thanks all

Ok i think that's because you consider an instant power with time limit on par with a constant power so that it qualifies for continuing charges right?

Excuse me if i'm boring, i relly like your solution but i had discarded it myself beacause continuing charges can be applied only to constant or persistent powers, are you just ignoring this or i'm missing something? Thanks for the suggestions

Yes as i can see from the different construction of a custom limitation would set around - 1/2 or - 3/4 and that is very useful for focusing its value since different approaches lead to a similar result

The drain side effect is a very good idea, i like it and did't think such a solution!

Ah ok so the time limit would extend the "one shot" feature of the delayed use. Thanks that is a really good suggestion

The continuing charge would have been my first choice if it would be usable with instant powers

The problem with delayed use is that it allows just one use of the power before the cooldown if i understood correctly