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Was it "God of Cookery"?

Very true Doc. As opposed to a New Age, anti-establishment member of the Ultimates? The idea sounds really cool. Looking forward to seing it when you get it done. I like. When you said Shanghai, I immediately thought of the anime "Master of Mosquiton" for some reason. Bet Lorna would work well for Adventure!

Re: American Valor Damn! Does he do work on commission at all?

Re: Skeleton That one looks perfect for a pulp villain!

Doc, Just wanted to say that I like the image you posted. Good to see some new art popping up. This thread has been a treasure trove of art. Thanks for sharing, and I look forward to seeing more of your work!

Re: Am I the only one here? That's a really good image for a quick one Wilcadt. I liked it alot

I actually scored a copy in shrinkwrap off ebay for under 20 bucks (it was more like 15 with shipping). Funny thing is, no one else bid on the auction, and I snagged it on the opening price just before the auction ended. Talk about being lucky....

I didn't take it as one, so no worries. I think some "vampires" in Asia are really Gaki, the hungry ghosts. The similarities are there, so they all get lumped in as cultural examples of vampires.

Mike, Do you go to rpg.net at all? There is a poster there who is from the Phillipines, and he posted some links for a comic company that is doing comics based on Phillipine myths. He might be able to help you out. His screen name there is pointyman2000 (I think; I know it's pointyman with numbers at the end)

Mike, Do you have this: Jikininki In Japanese myth, jikininki are demons, corpse-eaters, who eat dead human bodies. These demons are often the spirits of dead men or women whose greed prevented their souls from entering a more peaceful existence after death. They continue a half-life by devouring corpses. A particular myth tells of a strong-willed priest called Muso Kokushi who once kept watch near the body of a deceased person. Suddenly a jikininki arrived to devour it, but the priest's prayers liberated the demon's soul.

No, thank you. I'm really looking forward to this book!

I copied an article I found online into an email, and it has a paragraph that covers this part. I'll post it here, since it was the only info I found on why they hop: I've asked several people why Chinese ghosts hop and I've yet to receive a definitive answer. My guess is I probably won't. Best guesses yet: the tradition of burying the corpse in a standing position suggests that it would hop. Some people believe that it's the nature of the burial garments (usually of the Qing - Ching- Dynasty) that essentially bind the legs together making it impossible to walk. Some people believe that it's because rigor mortis has set in and the joints have lost all flexibility making a hopping motion the only possible option for mobility. Others maintain that the hopping motion is symbolic of the ghost's attachment to the physical plane and the inability of the soul to move on. Really, what it all boils down to is this: more often than not, Chinese vampires hop. I don't have the url for the site, but it was a site covering various types of undead, eastern and western. Still, it doesn't matter if the book has them hop, though I would suggest you should at least mention it. I mean, even if it's cinematic, wouldn't you want to mention that for people who want to run cinematic games? It does fit.

Actually, These are Chinese, not Japanese vampires (though they do exist in Japanese myth too, but it originated in China) Also, depending on which legend you follow, they don't have to bite you. They can infect you with what is known as "Corpse Poison" through their clawed nails. As to why they hop, it might have to do with the fact that they would bind the legs of the corpses prior to burial. If you really want to see Jiangshi in action, check out Mr. Vampire. It started a whole slew of movies with Hopping Vampires in it, and they can be pretty nasty if portrayed properly (of course, the cinematic versions drink blood, but normally they don't. One type steals a person's breath, and there might be other types as well, kind of like the Gaki). I actually did a setting for All Flesh Must Be Eaten/Enter the Zombie (their Hong Kong add on) based around Jiangshi. I think they're almost as cool as ninjas myself

Which had nothing to do with my comment. I asked Mike if the Chiang-shi were the Jiangshi, who are hopping vampires. Mike said they don't hop, so I asked sarcastically, what's the point. If they are hopping vampires, and you include them, but don't have them hop, why include them as non hoppers? That's my point. I know that some oriental vampires don't hop; I did mention the ones whose heads detach. I was specifically asking about the ones who do hop. I figured that was obvious by my asking specifically about the Jiangshi. Sorry I wasn't clear enough on that

If it doesn't hop, what's the point?

Is that the Hopping Vampire, also known as the Jiangshi? If so, are you going with their actual feeding practice (stealing breath), or the cinematic version of drinking blood? I saw later in your post you mentioned vampires. I take it that means other vampires from asia, like the detached head fliers (Pennagulan I think is the name?) and others?

Re: Aces Wildcards seems to have been reissued. About 2-3 weeks ago, I was in the local B&N, and I saw these oversized paperbacks that said Wilcards, and seemed to be collections of 2-3 books from the series. There were at least 2 volumes that I saw in the bookstore.

That's why I won't buy any of the New Line versions of Jet Li's films. I'd rather have the badly subtitled Hong Kong versions. They english may not be perfect, but I'd rather have to deal with that than missing footage. My friend got Twin Warriors, and then I got him the original (Tai Chi Master), and he said there is about 20 minutes cut from Twin Warriors, mainly fight scenes with bloodshed, and he was not too happy. He won't buy those anymore. Of course, it helps that I live in NYC, because we have a big chinatwon, and the stores are real friendly when you want to buy movies (and they are cheap too) I recently saw Musa the Warrior, which is Korean, but some of the action is pretty cool. More realistic than fantastic, one guy is a wicked warrior with a spear. It did have Zhang Zi Yi and the guy who played Iron Monkey (Yu Ron Gang?), which was pretty cool.

Re: Re: Re: Dark Champions - Please no Harbinger of Justice... You misunderstood. I said "Low Supers" as in low powered superpowers used in the game. Harbinger is still a human being, just one with alot of experience under his belt. His enemies, much like Batman's, ranges from talented normals like himself, to some of the super powered goons of the Card Shark.

Re: Dark Champions - Please no Harbinger of Justice... I think Harbinger fits fine. Sure, the teleporting guns is kind of high tech. So is all of Batman's vehicles. HoJ's nemesis, Card Shark, uses high tech gear, and some of his thugs are super powered. Harbinger is a perfect example of a DC character in a low supers style DC game. His only real power is the teleporation of his guns. I ran two Dark Champions games when it came out. One was a low supers game. It went ok, but I wasn't happy with it. My second one was more along the lines of street level heroes, with only gadgets as powers. While they all carried guns, some used cool gadgets (one pc used the utility belt from the supplements, and another one has a small vpp that he used to simulate various gadgets, since the character had been a special effects expert along the lines of Mysterio before he became a vigilante). I think HoJ should be in the next DC, just revised to fit him so that he isn't more along the lines of being an ally of the regular supers. Of course, that depends on how the next version of DC is going to be presented. if Low level supers will feature in it, then his guns as they were would fit, imho

I liked Last Hero in China too. I just don't think it's as good as the OUATIC films, and I felt that Fong Sai Yuk was better too (I'd rate Last Hero a bit above FSY 2 though) I have a dubbed version of Burning Paradise, but just scored a version in Cantonese off ebay. Have you seen New Legend of Shaolin? Nice Jet Li take on Lone Wolf and Cub, though I understand the character he plays was a real hero in China. Donnie Yen played the same character in an old tv series (part of which I saw on the International Channel). Of course, my favorite Jet Li movie is still the first one I saw him in, Fist of Legend. That one always has a soft spot with me

Musa the Warrior I saw this film the other night. Interesting Korean film. The basics are that a Korean Ambasadorial party is arrested by the Ming, and sent into Exile in the north. They get free after Mongols raid the Ming escorting them north, and they start to head home. Along the way, they find a Ming Princess held captive by the Yuan (A group of Mongols), rescue her, and attempt to bring her back to the Ming (and earn points with the Ming so that they can complete their mission as Ambassadors). Except for one character who is wicked nasty with a spear, and maybe one Korean warrior with a sword, the majority of the characters are not really over the top type fighters. The combats are fairly brutal and realistic, with limbs being hacked off, and lots of blood squirting from wounds. Zhang Zi Yi plays the princess, and the guy who played Iron Monkey is the Yuan general. It's a decent film, and a good inspiration for more realistic martial arts campaigns.

Not really. As Mike pointed out, the OUATIC movies show Wong after he gave up using Drunken Style after he promised his father not to use it anymore. Last Hero in China was made by a rival company, and Jet Li had a falling out with Tsui Hark, so the movie is a swipe at the OUATIC films. Using more Drunken Style was probably part of the swiping done in the script (imho). It's not really as good a film as the OUATIC films. Then again, I didn't like it as much as the Fong Sai Yuk movies either.

Here's a few more: Ahriman (Persian Deity. Personificaton of darkness. Basically the Persian Satan) Mithra (Persian god of light/war; also known as Mithras) Lamashtu (Mesopotamian disease demon/goddess) Guererra Sagrada (Sacred Warrior in Mexican)

Ahh, I thought you didn't like him, cause you referred to him as a "goof" That's the stance! It just seemed...odd to me. Then again, I haven't viewed my copy of DMII in chinese (I've seen the US version), so I didn't know he had a move called Eight Drunken Fairy Stance I have my fears about the movie, and this just adds to it. I will still go see it, to support CYF. At least he will hopefully do the CTHD prequel, so I know he will be doing at least one more good movie that Hollywood has some hand in (not much, which is why I think CTHD did so well) I dunno. My nephew watches alot of HK films with me (especially Jet Li and Jackie Chan films), and his friends have seen a few themselves. And these are kids 12-14. I think that CTHD opened alot of eyes to the coolness of asian action films. Then Iron Monkey was released, and HERO will be coming out. If some producer had any sense, they'd do a film showcasing the strength of a Jet Li and a Donnie Yen, wrapped around a decent story. Jet Li can do modern films; what he needs is a decent script. His US films haven been shoddy scripts. It's kind of sad in a way