Re: Problem with creating a FH spell.
Here's a CHALLENGE for you folks.
Okay, I understand all of the arguments as to why my Stolen Phantasm build is illegal, but meanwhile I have a spell which does what I want (albeit illegally). Nobody else has proposed a solution which actually models the original ability accurately. If you want to find out why, read my previous posts in which I have explained that already. It should have the following properties:
1) For an initial one-off END cost it enables the user to steal control of any active Illusion spell, up to a given active point total (say 60), whether the original caster is present or not. Ideally the success of the spell should be determined by an opposed Skill roll, or at least some kind of opposed dice roll. (Effect dice vs. active points is acceptable, though not ideal).
2) The Spell, when stolen, can be maintained and controlled by the new caster exactly as it would be by the previous one. I.E. it should have exactly the same properties in terms of END cost, duration (if applicable), Area of Effect, any other advantages (including MegaScale etc.) or Limitations.
3) The stolen spell does not have to be built on Images. It can be any valid "Illusion" concept, from Cosmetic Transform to something more esoteric like Drain PRE etc.
4) It should be done for a cost which a non-insane player would actually pay for such an ability. Obviously opinions on this one are going to vary, but if it exceeds say 50 or 60 real points (and that's really at the top end of what it's worth IMO) after the standard spell limitations (Gestures [-1/4], Incantations [-1/4], RSR [skill vs. Skill in this case; -3/4], and possibly Spell [-1/2] if appropriate for the build), I think most players, however much they want the ability, are likely to consider it overpriced. After all, they could buy two or three nice Illusions of their own and a hefty Dispel Illusion to boot for that. In fact as this spell is designed for Illusionists (and the RSR will reflect that) any player buying this spell is likely to have paid for those things already.
So the CHALLENGE is: build this legally. As I mentioned on NGD I'm going to be away for a week, so that should give you guys plenty of time. If nobody can produce a legal solution, I will of course continue to feel fully justified in using my illegal one.