Mainman112

Re: Invisibility vs. Sight Thanks for the responses. They have all been really awesome! The problem is that common sense is not a frequently used sense in this case. The player wants this to work in his favor (for obvious reasons) and pg 126 (as ambiguous as it is) could go either way. As some of you have already said, this makes no logical sense. What I’m hoping for is some rule that transcends the “spirit”, which can shut down the absurdity of this argument. The problem is that I agree with all of you as do the two other players. I think we have used words that are harsher in discussing the matter. There is no question that being invisible to the “sight” group does not mean that you don’t show up on radar/sonar/… smelldar whatever. Nor does it mean that you can’t have a visual representation of you show up through the 3rd party non sight based equipment. He says “…it says it right there in black and white on pg 126, it even uses radar as the example. I can’t be seen through any sight group because they are linked… why do you not seem to get that!?” That is what we are dealing with. Mainman112

Hey everyone, I need a rule clarification on Invisibility vs. Sight and other sensory groups. There is a player at the table to who has invisibility to sight. He is making the claim that if you use any sight group to detect him, he will be un-detectable. This includes if you are looking at a radar screen, it would make a “Bleep” sound but you would not see the dot on the screen, because you would be using your “sight” to see the representation shown. He has quoted pg 126 as his reference in which it states something like a battleships radar uses both radar (as the equipment) and normal sight (in order to see the screen). Because a radar screen uses sight (which is common) it would be -½ . Now, I and two other players are unsure on this. With the exception of page 126, nowhere else in the book does it suggest that you are invisible to all mechanical representations? Not only does this seem ridicules, but it also seems very un-thematic. The problem in this case is that the argument has come up based solely on the rules and not on the spirit. The story teller has already said that he thinks it’s illogical however; this has become an argument of rules. Does this mean that if someone is looking at a radar screen when a flash grenade goes off, the guy looking at the screen gets blinded even though he is not anywhere in the area? After all his “sight” group would be technically joint affected by radar according to page 126. Or is he reading this wrong? I can’t imagine this being the case nor can the two other players. It seems completely silly and in many ways, it makes the sight group of sensory WAY to powerful. Is this a Rule 0 (the story teller makes the call) moment or is there rules that you can point me to that suggest that this player is misinformed? Thanks. Mainman112

Re: Where is Fantasy? mayapuppies, You are not the only one in awe that Fantasy Hero is missing. I'm supprised that there is no ETA for it. I have the The Turakian Age and it is a good book however, its like buying Forgotten Realms and what you really want is the Players Handbook.

Re: Where is Fantasy? Thanks for the update. My group can't wait to start playing FH. I did not see a copy as of a few days ago on ebay however I will look again. I do wish that it would come out sooner rather than later. I know that my interest in D&D 3rd was growing weak after playing it for 8 years and after playing a few games of 4th (can't stand it) I am ready for a good Fantasy RPG that has a real feel to it rather than an over the top action cartoon. The more I read about FH, the more it looks like a really fun game.

Hey everyone. I’m new so I’m not sure if this has been asked before. (I looked). My group and I have wanted to start a Fantasy Hero’s game however we can’t find the book. We do not want to buy the PDF and would like to own a few hard copies of it, however, the book store here does not have it (paperback) and Amazon is selling the book for almost $100. Is the book gone?

Hey everyone. I’m new so I’m not sure if this has been asked before. (I looked). My group and I have wanted to start a Fantasy Hero’s game however we can’t find the book. We do not want to buy the PDF and would like to own a few hard copies of it, however, the book store here does not have it (paperback) and Amazon is selling the book for almost $100. Is the book gone?