Sorry, Steve - I'm obviously not communicating very well here. Anyway, my hypothetical situation goes a few phases past the other question you answered.
To use an example, let's posit two characters, Deadeye who has a low DC attack, and high Find Weakness, and Rockman, whose defenses are extremely high. To damage Rockman, Deadeye needs to quarter his defenses, at least. Let's give Deadeye 8 Speed, and a 3 for Rockman. Rockman doesn't know Deadeye is there.
Phase 12: Deadeye Finds Weakness on Rockman and succeeds. He can now halve Rockman's defenses. For his second half phase, he Finds Weakness again, but fails his roll. Per FREd, Deadeye now has Rockman at half defenses, but cannot further reduce Rockman's defenses in this encounter.
Phase 2: Deadeye should just slip away and try again another day, but he has Impatient at a total commitment level. So he fires an attack at Rockman, and declines to halve Rockman's defenses. This is where your initial answer kicks in:
A character who succeeds with a Find Weakness roll may, if he chooses, not use the halving of defense (perhaps because he’s afraid of hurting the target too badly). If he declines to use the effect, that cancels the roll, and if he later wants to use Find Weakness against the same target in the same combat, he has to succeed with the roll again (though at no penalty for a “successive rollâ€).
So Deadeye can no longer reduce Rockman's defenses at all.
Phase 3: Deadeye tries to Find Weakness on Rockman. What happens?
(a) Deadeye has failed a Find Weakness roll in this encounter. His attempt automatically fails.
( Because Deadeye waived the halving of defenses, he can make a normal FW roll against Rockman, as if he had never made the roll in phase 12. Success will halve Rockman's defenses.
Assuming (, and that Deadeye succeeds, in his FW roll, he then uses the other half of phase 3 for another Find Weakness roll. What happens now?
(a) Deadeye failed previously to Find Weakness to get Rockman down to 1/4 Defenses. Therefore, he cannot reduce Rockman's defenses below 1/2 at any time in this encounter. [To me, the reasonable result.]
( When Deadeye waived his FW bonus in phase 2, it essentially cancelled all FW attempts in this encounter. He can try again to reduce Rockman's defenses to 1/4, 1/8, etc. until he again misses a FW roll.
Phase 4: Rockman, tired of this discussion, rolls a 3 and slugs Deadeye into next week.
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Sorry, Steve - I'm obviously not communicating very well here. Anyway, my hypothetical situation goes a few phases past the other question you answered.
To use an example, let's posit two characters, Deadeye who has a low DC attack, and high Find Weakness, and Rockman, whose defenses are extremely high. To damage Rockman, Deadeye needs to quarter his defenses, at least. Let's give Deadeye 8 Speed, and a 3 for Rockman. Rockman doesn't know Deadeye is there.
Phase 12: Deadeye Finds Weakness on Rockman and succeeds. He can now halve Rockman's defenses. For his second half phase, he Finds Weakness again, but fails his roll. Per FREd, Deadeye now has Rockman at half defenses, but cannot further reduce Rockman's defenses in this encounter.
Phase 2: Deadeye should just slip away and try again another day, but he has Impatient at a total commitment level. So he fires an attack at Rockman, and declines to halve Rockman's defenses. This is where your initial answer kicks in:
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A character who succeeds with a Find Weakness roll may, if he chooses, not use the halving of defense (perhaps because he’s afraid of hurting the target too badly). If he declines to use the effect, that cancels the roll, and if he later wants to use Find Weakness against the same target in the same combat, he has to succeed with the roll again (though at no penalty for a “successive rollâ€).
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So Deadeye can no longer reduce Rockman's defenses at all.
Phase 3: Deadeye tries to Find Weakness on Rockman. What happens?
(a) Deadeye has failed a Find Weakness roll in this encounter. His attempt automatically fails.
(
Because Deadeye waived the halving of defenses, he can make a normal FW roll against Rockman, as if he had never made the roll in phase 12. Success will halve Rockman's defenses.
Assuming (
, and that Deadeye succeeds, in his FW roll, he then uses the other half of phase 3 for another Find Weakness roll. What happens now?
(a) Deadeye failed previously to Find Weakness to get Rockman down to 1/4 Defenses. Therefore, he cannot reduce Rockman's defenses below 1/2 at any time in this encounter. [To me, the reasonable result.]
(
When Deadeye waived his FW bonus in phase 2, it essentially cancelled all FW attempts in this encounter. He can try again to reduce Rockman's defenses to 1/4, 1/8, etc. until he again misses a FW roll.
Phase 4: Rockman, tired of this discussion, rolls a 3 and slugs Deadeye into next week.
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