nytflyr Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 'Nazi aircraft carrier' located Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... Did you notice the goof in the location map? They called it a zeppelin! Yes, even the Beeb can goof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirViss Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... Ummm, the name of the ship was the Graf Zeppelin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nytflyr Posted August 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... Did you notice the goof in the location map? They called it a zeppelin! It was named after Ferdinand von Zeppelin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowcat1313 Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... her sister ship the Peter Strasser wasnt even remotely finished at wars end she was intended to carry BF-109s and stukas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nytflyr Posted August 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... So Im thinking of a scenario, consisting of this aircraft carrier, some Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighters, The Hindenburg, a Lockheed Electra 10A, and if nessesary, a few Supermarine Spitfires... It is discovered that a Nazi spy has stolen some war preparation secrets from the United States, by the time the word gets to our heroes, the spy and the plans are on the Hindenburg enroute to Frankfurt. to help ensure its safe arival the Zepellin Aircraft Carrier is positioned on its route, fully ready to protect its newly aquired information. Its a war in the sky as the Electra 10A, which is not designed for combat, is manhandled by the parties stunt pilot to get to the airship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... It was named after Ferdinand von Zeppelin... Than which was the Graf Spree? A battleship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowcat1313 Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... The Admiral Graf Spee was a pocket Battleship she was scuttled in the River Platte after a running battle with a british cruiser squadron in 1939 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... Ummm' date=' the name of the ship was the Graf Zeppelin.[/quote'] Approximate location of Zeppelin wreck One does not refer to a ship by part of its name. Since the most successful passenger airship was named the Graf Zeppelin, I think it clear the caption writer got confused (or was not fully informed), and thought the references in the article to Graf Zeppelin were to the airship. So it seems to me now upon reflection, as it did upon first reading the article. Which doesn't detract from the pulpiness of the whole idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nytflyr Posted August 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... Since the most successful passenger airship was named the Graf Zeppelin, I think it clear the caption writer got confused (or was not fully informed), and thought the references in the article to Graf Zeppelin were to the airship. Im not following you here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... First, you've been scooped Second, the map is wrong to just refer to the ship as "Zeppelin" as that was not it's correct name, as Basil said. It was launched as Graf Zeppelin. It woul dbe just as wrong to have a map of the western Mediterranean with "Ark found here" to indicate the resting place of Ark Royal. Third, for those who really want to know, the GZ would have carried Bf109T (T = Traeger = "carrier") fighters (same as E model but strengthened and with extended wings), Ju87C dive bombers (same as B but with jettisionable undercarriage - in case of ditching) and Fieseler Fi 167 high-wing torpedo bombers. Examples of both the former types were available for service before the carrier were completed, and entered service as TraegerGruppe (TGr) 186 in the Polish and French campaigns. After the French campaign, when work on GZ was halted, this unit was disbanded and its assets transferred to other units. The Fi 167 was still under development at that time and never entered full production. (Note: used "ae" in "traeger" cuz I'm too lazy to work out how to do the umlaut thingy this late at night). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nytflyr Posted August 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Re: More Pulp fodder... First' date=' you've been scooped Second, the map is wrong to just refer to the ship as "Zeppelin" as that was not it's correct name, as Basil said. It was launched as Graf Zeppelin. It woul dbe just as wrong to have a map of the western Mediterranean with "Ark found here" to indicate the resting place of Ark Royal. Not in this forum, I wasnt as for the name, the airship and the carrier were both named Graf Zeppelin, with Graf being translated as "Count" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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