Pól Ruadh

Re: What would your Character Be: Tiger Squad

Boomtown Brawler wouldn't make it in the Tiger Squad. He's really dumb' date=' and lazy for a superhero. He'd be cut up for spare organs in China.[/quote']

 

No way, man. He'd just get played by Sammo Hung.

Re: What would your Character Be: Tiger Squad

El Aguila Azul is a foundling taught wrestling by El Aguila Sagredo, a catholic priest and former luchador who ran the orphanage where he grew up. He has super strength, enhanced durability and a small range of anti-demon and monster abilities.

In the Chinese version, he is raised by the Taoist Holy Man and former monster hunter, Most Beatific Eagle Claw (played by Lam Ching Ying*, 'Magic Cop', 'Mister Vampire') who trains him in Kung Fu. By day, he competes professionally in kung fu tournaments, but by night, he prowls the streets, seeking out the demons who prey on the souls of humanity as Soaring Eagle Claw.

Essentially, he's a modern day version of the titular character from the film, 'Iron Monkey', crossed with the stereotypical Taoist Monster Hunter as seen in films like 'Chinese Ghost Story'.

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lam_Ching_Ying

Re: Lucha Hero

I Finally checked this out' date=' and It IS awesome, thanx...[/quote']

Groovy. I get the impression that it's a bit of a labour of love for the creator, and it's just so fantastic, and criminally unknown, I try to let people know about it whenever I can.

Glad you dig it.

Re: Campaigns bases off alternate sources.

Pól Ruadh I've got to ask... a norse catgirl? All I can picture in my head is Felicia from Dark Stalkers wearing a spare Thor costume.

It's a pretty bizarre concept, but basically, in Norse mythology, the goddess Freya has a chariot drawn by cats. The character's backstory is that, for her years of faithful service, Freya granted her human(oid) form and her freedom.

She looks like this:

Re: What's the point? They're gonna escape anyways

I LOVE it when villains come back!

I WANT them to come back!

That means I get to fight them AGAIN! Which is AWESOME!!!

Re: What's the point? They're gonna escape anyways

Dr. Destroyer has multiple escape plans. Mechanon has multiple bodies.

 

I even have villains that seem to escape at the last minute.

 

So what's the point? They're gonna escape anyways. Right?

(For this post, my part will be played by Patrick Warburton)

Good Gravy, Man! What's HAPPENED to you?

What about JUSTICE, Man!? What about TRUTH!?

Fighting the GOOD FIGHT!?

We're Superheroes! We don't do it for the Money! The Prestige! The Respect! We do it because in this crazy, mixed-up place, SOMEBODY's GOTTA SAVE THE WORLD!

Re: Lucha Hero

Notes I envision Los Lobos not as a person that can duplicate' date=' but rather as 5 Luchadors who can combine, sort of like Voltron....[/quote']

 

Nice! And there's certainly real life (sort of) precedents in Los Villanos, a team of rudos wearing the same mask, but with a different Roman numeral on them... which was certainly an influence on Los Hermanos Numeros from the 5th season 'Angel' episode, 'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinquo'.

 

An option there would be to use Five MIDGET luchadors combining to form one full size wrestler, as midget wrestling has always been huge in Mexico.

Re: Campaigns bases off alternate sources.

Yes. That's why I used a page from the same site as my reference.

 

A whole bunch of this stuff is on line.

 

Dark Nebula is actually the lamest. I recommend the Southern Squadron. Unfortunately, The Jackaroo isn't on line. Bits of it used to be.

 

After I finished all my important business today I started sketching out the outlines of a campaign in this setting.

 

I'm thinking: 250 points. The PCs replace the Southern Squadron as Australia's official superteam. 350 points if you insist.

Thanks for that link. I've got most of the original comics, but definitely a good source to have.

It's also well worth checking out http://www.webcomicsnation.com/garychaloner/ which is a bunch of Gary Chaloner's stuff.

Unfortunately, no Jackeroo, but Red Kelso is pretty awesome.

Re: Campaigns bases off alternate sources.

If you're looking for more characters, may I suggest here:

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/o/ozzie.htm

It's mostly heroes, but there's more than a few 'darker' characters who you could easily turn into baddies with very little effort. Indeed, the Cyclone comics folks sorta did with Molo the Mighty.

Re: Campaigns bases off alternate sources.

One of the nice things about the superhero genre is that you can pull influences from all over.

For instance, in the campaign I'm in at the moment, my character, a superstrong Mexican Wrestler (inspired by El Santo and the Blue Demon, chiefly), is in a team alongside a teleporting jerk (inspired by Deadpool), a Norse catgirl, a flame controller (inspired by Ben 10), a cybernetic Naval officer (inspired by a Warhammer 40K Commissar), a psychic alien supersoldier (inspired by the JLU version of Hawkgirl and Judge Dredd) and his sidekick (inspired by Marvel's Black Widow).

Events so far in the game have been inspired by HP Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos, 1960's James Bond films, Mexican Luchador/Monster movies, Silver Age DC Comics, the film 'Groundhog Day', Gerry Anderson Puppet Series, 'Independence Day', Godzilla movies, 'Moby Dick', 'The Hunt for Red October', and that's just off the top of my head.

Re: Low End Villain or Henchmen Campaign?

Another really good resource for this would be a one-shot comic called 'Hench'. (http://ait-planetlar.com/hench.shtml)

The fourth ed. Viper book has some excellent flavour text about what life is like for the average bloke in the green, scaly kevlar.

Re: Lucha Hero

I have to give a shout-out to a new comic from Slave Labour Graphics called 'Strongman'.

'Strongman' tells the story of once-famed luchador, movie star and crimefighter, 'El Tigre' who battled evil in Mexico during the 60's and 70's until mysteriously disappearing.

It's 30+ years later and he's a down-and-outer living in New York City, losing to inferior wrestlers for drinking money and drinking himself to death, when a face from his past appears seeking his help.

Can he rouse himself from his self-pity and dissipation? Is it possible to be the hero he once was, even one more time?

I picked this one up yesterday and it's definitely worth a read.

It's not the best lucha libre related comic I've ever seen (that honour goes to the wonderful 'Sonambulo') but it's a very very sweet piece of work and definitely worth a look-see.

Also, the creators have done a bunch of youtube trailers for it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/cdsoule

Re: Lucha Hero Quote Of The Day

"It was the same year 'Tysslin' Tom' Gurney knocked out the space-squid from Rigel X-9...

"It happened at 9:38 p.m....

"It came from an atomic flying elbow."

Gerard Way, 'Umbrella Academy' #1

I know it's blaxploitation, not lucha, but it's got the same sense of bravado and style...

"I'm handin' out beat-downs like they was lollipops.

"So how 'bout it... you want a suckah, SUCKAH?"

'Sugah' Rollins, 'Bay City Jive' #1

Re: Lucha Hero Quote Of The Day

It certainly still works. It's only a short jump from Hurricane Helms to Huracán Ramirez after all.

Re: GenCon 2009 Hong Kong Cinematic Superheroes

Another (forgotten?) live action Aussie Superhero for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_Captain_Invincible

Re: Lucha Libre Hero Plot Threads

excellent maybe el brujo could be after blue eagles body for a host

He certainly was!

And what was worse was that he was possessing the body of a helpless innocent which meant that the normally physical Blue Eagle had to use his wits to defeat the evildoer rather than simply pummeling him into submission... which is his usual M.O.

Re: Lucha Libre Hero Plot Threads

And here are some (uncoloured, alas) pictures of Master Arrow-Fist and Xlotl respectively:

Re: Lucha Libre Hero Plot Threads

At the moment, Blue has only encountered El Brujo once. The game's only been running for a couple of months now.

Basically, the backstory I gave him is that for decades, there have been a team of luchadors who, in addition to being wrestlers, operated as a loose affiliation of secret agents of the Mexican government, battling monsters, criminals and mad scientists, Los Guerreros Secretos (The Secret Warriors). Like Los Campeones Justicieros, Los Guerreros had a rotating membership as members retired, were injured or died, and new members were recruited.

For decades, the greatest thorn in the side of Los Guerreros was a mysterious figure known only as El Brujo. El Brujo had, in the past, displayed proficiency as a scientist, and there were rumours that he possessed mystical powers. A Moriarty-like figure, many diverse operations pursued by Los Guerreros ended up being the work of El Brujo.

Sometimes, he'd be developing terrible superweapons, other times, creating armies of monsters or robots, still others, he would be behind a diabolical cult bilking rich marks of their life savings and stealing secrets.

The only common thread in his work was his love of manipulation and subterfuge. He was a consummate manipulator who delighted in corrupting good people and duping bad people into performing worse deeds.

And yet, for all his actions, for all that Los Guerreros foiled so many of his operations, they never managed to capture him, or even to get a glimpse of his true face.

El Aguila's mentor, El Aguila Sagredo (The Sacred Eagle, based on real life luchador and social activist, Fray Tormenta) was a member of Los Guerreros, though he had retired as both a wrestler and a crimefighter, and the team had fallen apart by the mid 80's.

In the team's final encounter with El Brujo, they got closer to him than ever before, and managed to destroy an enormous base in a massive explosion which, it was assumed, El Brujo died. But several of Los Guerreros were gravely injured and at least one was dead. It was this that finally meant the end of the group.

Decades later, Blue, knowing nothing of his mentor's secret history, has become a crimefighting luchador when he encounters a mysterious figure who claims to have a vendetta against him... though they've never met before.

It turns out that, for possibly the first time in history, a master villain actually DID die in the explosion of his secret underground complex. However, El Brujo's corrupt spirit has escaped from Hell itself and seeks a new, young, strong body that he can inhabit and continue his evil schemes.

Basically, he made a two-pronged attack on the heroes, recruiting the mysterious Asian martial artist, Master Arrow-Fist, and Mexican supervillain, Xlotl, as well as supervillainous luchador, El Diablo Rojo and teams of masked thugs and agents to attack our heroes in the physical world, while targeting our heroes himself in a phantasmal dream world.

Re: Lucha Libre Hero Plot Threads

wouuld your luchadore object if his name was spoken as the english "blue eagle?

Not at all. If it's good enough for Blue Demon, it's good enough for him.

His pals call him 'Blue' or 'Azul' for short.

'Cos if it's good enough for Eduardo from 'Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends', it's good enough for me!

Re: Lucha Libre Hero Plot Threads

At one stage, the GM asked me if I wouldn't mind designing some rudo henchmen for my hero to pummel on, so I managed to come up with these two.

The demonic El Diablo Rojo and the monstrous El Muerte Negro.

(hrm. I'd forgotten I hadn't finished colouring El Diablo yet. When he's completed, I'll post a full colour shot)

Re: Lucha Libre Hero Plot Threads

Dude! There is always room for art!

Well, in that case, allow me to introduce my current character, El Aguila Azul. He's a lucha libre hero in a four colour superhero campaign. He's a low-powered brick/martial artist combo.

He's a second generation luchador/hero, and he's inherited his mentor's arch-nemesis, the diabolical El Brujo!

Re: Lucha Libre Hero Plot Threads

yeah you might only be able to refer to them in the section covering the history of real world luche libre

Certainly, that'd be fair use, you couldn't do something on Lucha Libre and not mention those guys... not to mention guys like Mil Mascaras, Doctor Wagner and Hurracan Ramirez, but writing them up as characters and using their likenesses and so forth might prove problematic.

But yes, I'd like to see a fine array of Mad Scientists and their horrible Creations, Alien Invaders, Old-school movie monsters, Aztec Mummies, Nefarious Gangsters, Vampire Women, Evil Luchadors (hsss!) and Satanic Cults.

I'd like to see a reflection of the fact that there are different types of Lucha movies, much like Ninja Hero differentiated between different types of Martial Arts movies.

Essentially, Lucha movies have married the concept of the masked wrestling hero to so many different types of movies, from gangster-pummelling cliffhanger serials, through Universal-style monster films, to 50's Atomic Horror and Alien Invasion science fiction, Hammer Horror-style grand guignol, and 60's psychotropic variations on all of the above.

One of the wonderful things about the Luchador Hero is that, because he is so very much out of place everywhere, he fits in almost anywhere.

Luchadors work well in horror stories, in pulp adventure, two-fisted crime dramas, in science fiction, in superhero stuff, film noir detective, high camp comedy, kung-fu chop socky, way-out cartoon shenanigans, even social commentary.

On a side note, I'm playing a superpowered luchador in a game at the moment, would anyone object to me posting a few pictures here? Or is there somewhere specially dedicated to art where I should be posting work like that?

Re: The Mentalist Wrestler

If you want the effect of a wrestler without giving away your true nature just but telekenisis with a restriction on wrestling manuevers. You could have a limited from of telekenisis that covers your body like a thin invisible suit that boosts any normal physical action you do. Mind over matter with a super-twist.

I'd also buy superleap with the Telekinetic power effect for awesome aerial moves, hurricanranas, planchas, moonsaults and the like...

plus, you could use your telekinesis to protect you while doing move-by's (flying clothesline, shoulderblock), or move-throughs (flying cross-body, suicida).

As well (of course) as keeping your mask where it belongs and keeping your cape it's flutteringest. (Both very important)

Re: The Mentalist Wrestler

No range telekinesis is also good for keeping your capes their flutteringest.

Re: The Mentalist Wrestler

Lol you guessed it I am Playing a lucha libre' date=' Im still working on the Name and Look of Him. Totally stealing that Move, Armlock of truth HAH. We start Playing Next Week and im going to use alot of this stuff, Thanks again guys for all the Great Input[/quote']

 

Let us know how it goes!

I'm playing a luchador myself, just a standard low-level brick / martial artist (wrestling), but I'm thinking of giving him some minor mystical abilities which he uses to battle supernatural evil.