SangurianSoul Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 First bit, I apologize if this has been explained already, I could not find it if it was. Now, honestly, I hoping I'm just doing something wrong, and the answer is just sitting in front of my face. But when i go to build a shield as per the explanations in the Equipment Guide, HD wont let me. When building the DCV portion of the Multipower, I can not add Real Armor, Mass, or STR Min Reqs, without force adding. Not that i cant just do that, but it seems silly when this is how your build a shield... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 You need to be using a Heroic template/rules (those Modifiers don’t apply to Superheroic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SangurianSoul Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 I am using the Heroic Template unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Ah...misread the problem. As indicated, those mods do not apply to DCV in the RAW. You’d need to either place the DCV component outside of the MP (which would be more appropriate) or use Custom Modifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SangurianSoul Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Well I'm confused... then by RAW, how are you supposed to replicate this? If one rule says no, but then this is how you are supposed to do it? Equipment Guide pg.237 - In game terms, a shield is bought as a two-slot Multipower. The first slot provides bonuses to DCV, bought as DCV Levels with the OAF (-1), Real Armor (-¼), Mass (Normal Mass; -1), and STR Minimum Limitations. For every 5 points (or fraction thereof) a shield’s user’s STR is below the shield’s STR Minimum, reduce the DCV bonus it provides by 1. Additionally, the wielder may apply his shield’s DCV bonus as a bonus to his OCV for purposes of Blocking (see 6E2 58). - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SangurianSoul Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Also, I don't mean to be overbearing or come off as rude, I'm just trying to make sure i understand correctly. Even if the answer is "Weird... Just overrule it.", cool. Just trying to get it to make sense in may head. Because even in HERO Vol 2: "Build shields as +1 (or more) DCV with the Focus (OAF) and STR Minimum Limitations applied to them. For every 5 points (or fraction thereof) a shield’s user’s STR is below the shield’s STR Minimum, reduce the DCV bonus it provides by 1." Also, when I brought the DCV out of the Multipower, is still don't have access to the limitations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 The supplements don't always follow the rules. And DCV won't have access to those Modifiers no matter where you buy it -- they're not valid for Characteristic Powers under the RAW, which is what HD follows. Barton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SangurianSoul Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Okay, that's fine. Im not saying that HD is wrong or anything. Just strange as both Fantasy Hero and Equipment Guide say these things about shields. Heck, even HERO Vol.2, the core rulebook says to build a shield as DCV with OAF and STR Min. Also, thank you for your quick responses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 OAF you can apply, STR Min you cannot -- it applies to Attack Powers, which DCV is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SangurianSoul Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 I understand, thank you. I guess its more of a rules question then to have the core books contradict themselves. Thanks for the info Dan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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