Entangle that stops Hearing

[Kyle A.]

If I buy an entangle that stops hearing does it prevent the entangled character from using powers that require incantations?

[MitchellS]

Re: Entangle that stops Hearing

 

Blocks taste/smell would make more sense.

[Kyle A.]

Re: Entangle that stops Hearing

 

Maybe but you don't build a Darkness silence field to block taste/smell you build it to affect hearing. So does it go the same way with entangles?

[MitchellS]

Re: Entangle that stops Hearing

 

It's up to the GM to decide based on the special effects. Webbing in the ears might not have anything to do with whether or not the character can still talk. A darkness field cancels all sound. Entangles with stops hearing seem to be more ear-based than tongue, IMO.

[Kyle A.]

Re: Entangle that stops Hearing

 

Would it change anything, in your opinion if the Entangle was a magical spell (it is) and not a net of some sort?

[MitchellS]

Re: Entangle that stops Hearing

 

IMO, the limitation's value comes from the fact that the power needs to be heard by the target, not the caster, to be effective. If the target can't hear the incantation then it can't effect him. It doesn't matter if the caster can hear it or not.

 

I'd also point out that many entangles would block incantation without needing to buy stops a sense just as a gag would. It all depends on the special effects of the attack. A bolo won't stop them, and sticky web to the face probably would.

[prestidigitator]

Re: Entangle that stops Hearing

 

IMO, the limitation's value comes from the fact that the power needs to be heard by the target, not the caster, to be effective. If the target can't hear the incantation then it can't effect him. It doesn't matter if the caster can hear it or not.

 

I'd also point out that many entangles would block incantation without needing to buy stops a sense just as a gag would. It all depends on the special effects of the attack. A bolo won't stop them, and sticky web to the face probably would.

Eh? So a simple and all-effective way to counter an opponent wizard's spells is to stuff earplugs in your own ears? No. I say the Limitation is one that makes it reasonably obvious to anyone within earshot that the caster is casting a spell (or at least doing something obviously strange), unless unusual preventative measures are taken. An added detriment is that if the wizard is unable to emit the highly audible incantations at all, (s)he cannot cast the spell.

 

If a wizard were using a long-range spell and simply out of earshot of the target, I'd say the spell could still work. If the wizard had a silence (Darkness to the Sound Group) with a Hole in the Middle up, or had earplugs on him/herself, I'd say they could still cast (though I might personally have the wizard make a Per roll or Magic roll or something if they can't hear their own voice--it might make the casting more difficult). If they had Invisibility to hearing up, had a silence (without Hole in the Middle) around them, had a gag in their mouth, or had just eaten peanut butter, I'd say they couldn't. I agree that it is highly SFX and common-sense dependent.

[MitchellS]

Re: Entangle that stops Hearing

 

When I said "heard by the target" I was meaning it needs to be obvious to the target that something strange is happening. The target needs a chance to use the limitation against the caster in some fashion. If the wizard casts the spell 5 miles away every time then it's not really a limitation, IMO.

[Hawksmoor]

Re: Entangle that stops Hearing

 

Ah you're just saying that to prevent twinkie snipers from invading your FH game aren't you?

 

Damned Elves!

 

Hawksmoor