Scott Destroyer Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hi all, Recently got my hands on CV 1 and 2, and found them in general to be very well done indeed - I was particularly happy to finally see a write-up for Dr. Yin Wu. But recent revisions to the CU seem to have left the background of Dr. Destroyer's servant Gigaton a bit muddled. The "common knowledge" about him, available even without any Skill Rolls, has him well-known as Destroyer's chief henchman while Destroyer was alive. Yet, in the current CU, the secret military experiment that gave Gigaton his powers did not even occur until 1994, two years after Destroyer's "death", and his recruitment of course came even later. Reconciling these different versions of the facts is left as a No-Prize-ish exercise for Mr. Long and interested parties here on these boards. Perhaps the blast which empowered him also time-shifted him, Captain Atom-style, and part of his current background was fabricated to cover this up... Anyone got any other interesting theories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanis Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Re: Gigaton question... The simplest retcon would be that Gigaton was recruited into the organization during Zerstoiten's reclusion and was not active prior to the Battle of Detroit. His own enormous power allowed him to take a supervisory role of the organization in Destroyer's absence. There wasn't really anything pre-Detroit that Gigaton absolutely had to be a part of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Re: Gigaton question... Excellent catch, Scott Destroyer. Have to keep the family history straight, after all. This is unquestionably a continuity error, but since we're playing for a No-Prize here, here's my theory: The "original" Gigaton was one of Dr. Destroyer's robots, its true nature concealed by this identity, giving the Doctor a lieutenant with absolute loyalty to him... but the limitations of an artificial intelligence. When Destroyer "acquired" Tim Colton, a superhuman with appropriate power, skills, and loyalty, he gave Colton the Gigaton identity. (Of course this is really all Cryptic Studios' fault, for that whole "Shadow Destroyer" business. Thank goodness the real DD is back in Champions Online, and we can put that behind us.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Destroyer Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Re: Gigaton question... Hi again, Epiphanis: I'm really looking more for amusing in-universe ways to explain the apparent error, than for straightforward GM advice on which path to take with Gigaton. And while you are certainly right that one could run with him appearing in '94 with little consequence to the CU at large, the implications for his own character seem a bit more significant. His schtick has always been "Destroyer's most powerful and favored servant"; a change to "dude who somehow convinced Destroyer's old crew to follow him" seems kind of drastic. Lord Liaden: the robot thing is very cool and Destroyer-ish. This whole issue, though, got me to thinking on the broader question of retcons in the CU, and it seems to me that these sorts of fixes are the kind of thing Captain Chronos was born to do. Need a retcon? The good Captain charges his powers into his fist to punch the walls of the Champions Universe, creating temporo-spatial ripples that cause Seeker to make a deal with the Dragon to erase the timeline in which he is married, which in turn brings about a subtle yet inexorable series of events (likely involving Foxbat) that lead, with four-sigma probability, to [desired retcon X]. Unless, of course, those pesky PCs intervene... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Re: Gigaton question... Now that you mention it, tampering by Captain Chronos might be the very reason why Tim Colton's history and Project Sunburst don't line up. Perhaps it was necessary for some future event, for Gigaton to have been established as Dr. D's security chief earlier. Maybe DD's organization needed him to be held together in the face of the Doctor's apparent death, to help confront an even greater menace coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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