40k/Desthwatch to HERO?

[Sam On Maui]

Are there any conversion guides out there? Or is it a matter of they go up and GW sends out C&D orders shortly thereafter?

 

I'm looking to run Deathwatch for some friends, but don't care for the system much. I'd prefer to not reinvent the wheel and making a port when someone has done one (and probably better). Any suggestions?

[massey]

I don't know how to attach files, and I don't have any kind of file uploader account thing.  But I did a bunch of 40K writeups several years ago.  If somebody tells me how to attach things without me having to sign up for anything or do a whole lot, I'll post the hero designer files.  As it is I'll just post the text from them.

 

These aren't really "conversions" as in straight numbers to numbers, more like eyeballed estimates.  I went with the idea that 40K stuff is powerful, compared to normal modern tech.  Space Marines are tough, compared to normal humans.  But they aren't going to be competitive with superheroes, by any means.

 

Going with the idea that a lasgun is pretty much an M-16 equivalent, I went with:

 

WEAPONS

 

Laspistol: Killing Attack - Ranged 1d6+1, 4 clips of 16 Charges (+1/4) (25 Active Points); OAF (-1)

 

Lasgun: Killing Attack - Ranged 1 1/2d6, 4 clips of 32 Charges (+1/2) (37 Active Points); OAF (-1)

 

Multilaser: Killing Attack - Ranged 2d6+1, Autofire (5 shots; +1/2), 500 Charges (+1) (87 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2)

 

Bolt Pistol: Killing Attack - Ranged 2d6+1 (35 Active Points); OAF (-1), 2 clips of 8 Charges (-1/4)

 

Bolter: Killing Attack - Ranged 2d6+1, Autofire (3 shots; +1/4), 4 clips of 16 Charges (+1/4) (52 Active Points); OAF (-1)

 

Storm Bolter: Killing Attack - Ranged 2d6+1, Autofire (5 shots; +1/2), 4 clips of 250 Charges (+1) (87 Active Points); OAF (-1)

 

Plasma Pistol: Killing Attack - Ranged 3d6-1, 2 clips of 8 Boostable Charges (+0), Armor Piercing (+1/2) (60 Active Points); OAF (-1), Side Effects (-1/2), Activation Roll 15- (-1/4)

 

Plasma Gun: Killing Attack - Ranged 3d6, Autofire (3 shots; +1/4), Armor Piercing (+1/2), 4 clips of 16 Boostable Charges (+1/2) (101 Active Points); OAF (-1), Side Effects (-1/2), Activation Roll 15- (-1/4)

 

Plasma Cannon: Killing Attack - Ranged 3d6, Armor Piercing (+1/2), 4 clips of 16 Boostable Charges (+1/2), Area Of Effect (2" radius; +3/4) (124 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2), Side Effects (-1/2), Activation Roll 15- (-1/4)

 

Flamer: Killing Attack - Ranged 2 1/2d6, +1 Increased STUN Multiplier (+1/4), Area Of Effect (11" Cone; +1) (90 Active Points); OAF (-1), No Range (-1/2), 8 Charges (-1/2)

 

Heavy Flamer: Killing Attack - Ranged 3d6+1, +1 Increased STUN Multiplier (+1/4), Area Of Effect (26" Cone; +1 1/4) (125 Active Points); OAF (-1), 6 Charges (-3/4), No Range (-1/2)

 

Melta Gun: Killing Attack - Ranged 4d6, Armor Piercing (+1/2), Penetrating (+1/2) (120 Active Points); OAF (-1), 12 Charges (-1/4), Limited Range - 12" (-1/4)

 

Multi-Melta: Killing Attack - Ranged 4d6+1, 16 Charges (+0), Armor Piercing (+1/2), Penetrating (+1/2) (130 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2), Limited Range - 24" (-1/4)

 

Missile Launcher: Killing Attack - Ranged 5d6-1, Explosion (+1/2) (105 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2), 12 Charges (-1/4)

 

Cyclone Missile Launcher: Killing Attack - Ranged 5d6-1, Explosion (+1/2), Autofire (10 shots; +2) (245 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2), 10 Charges (-1/4)

 

Assault Cannon: Killing Attack - Ranged 3d6+1, Autofire (10 shots; +1), 500 Charges (+1) (150 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2)

 

Autocannon: Killing Attack - Ranged 4d6-1, Autofire (2 shots; +1/4), 64 Charges (+1/2) (96 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2)

 

Lascannon: Killing Attack - Ranged 5d6+1, Semi-Armor Piercing (+1/4) (100 Active Points); OAF Bulky (-1 1/2), 12 Charges (-1/4)

 

 

 

ARMOR

 

Flak Armor: Armor (3 PD/3 ED) (9 Active Points); Activation Roll 12- (-3/4), OIF (-1/2)

 

Carapace Armor: Armor (5 PD/5 ED) (15 Active Points); Activation Roll 13- (-3/4), OIF (-1/2)

 

Power Armor, all slots OIF (-1/2)

1)  Armor (8 PD/8 ED) (24 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

2)  +5 STR (5 Active Points); No Figured Characteristics (-1/2), OIF (-1/2)

3)  Life Support  (Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Self-Contained Breathing) (19 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

4)  Nightvision (5 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

5)  Radio Perception/Transmission (Radio Group) (10 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

6)  Sight Group Flash Defense (6 points) (6 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

 

Artificer Armor, all slots OIF (-1/2)

1)  Armor (10 PD/10 ED) (30 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

2)  +5 STR (5 Active Points); No Figured Characteristics (-1/2), OIF (-1/2)

3)  Life Support  (Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Self-Contained Breathing) (19 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

4)  Nightvision (5 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

5)  Radio Perception/Transmission (Radio Group) (10 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

6)  Sight Group Flash Defense (6 points) (6 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

 

Terminator Armor, all slots OIF (-1/2)

1)  Armor (14 PD/14 ED) (42 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

2)  +10 STR (10 Active Points); No Figured Characteristics (-1/2), OIF (-1/2)

3)  Life Support  (Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Self-Contained Breathing) (19 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

4)  Nightvision (5 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

5)  Radio Perception/Transmission (Radio Group) (10 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

6)  Sight Group Flash Defense (6 points) (6 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

 

Iron Halo: Force Field (5 PD/5 ED), Hardened (+1/4), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (17 Active Points); Activation Roll 14- (-1/2)

 

Psychic hood: Missile Deflection (Any Ranged Attack) (20 Active Points); Limited Power Warp powers only (-1)

 

 

 

HAND TO HAND WEAPONS

 

Combat knife: Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 1d6+1 (20 Active Points); OAF (-1)

 

Chainsword: Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 1 1/2d6 (25 Active Points); OAF (-1)

 

Crozius: Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 2d6-1 (25 Active Points); OAF (-1)

 

Power Sword: Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 1d6+1, Armor Piercing (+1/2) (30 Active Points); OAF (-1)

 

Power Fist

1)  Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 2d6, Armor Piercing (+1/2) (45 Active Points); OAF (-1)

2)  +10 STR (10 Active Points); No Figured Characteristics (-1/2)

 

Force Weapon: Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 1 1/2d6, Armor Piercing (+1/2) (37 Active Points); OAF (-1)

[massey]

Space Marine

 

Here I went with the idea that they're enhanced to tremendous levels -- when you compare them to normal men.  Theoretically you could get a natural unaugmented human who was at a Space Marine's level, but it would be quite rare.  I've always felt that Space Marine combat performance doesn't actually measure up to their legend.  "Better than 100 normal men" blah blah blah.

 

All this stuff is 5th edition, by the way.  Heroic level, they don't pay points for equipment.

 

 

 

Val Char Cost

18/23 STR 8

18 DEX 24

18 CON 16

12 BODY 4

10 INT 0

12 EGO 4

15 PRE 5

10 COM 0

 

8/16 PD 4

8/16 ED 4

4 SPD 12

8 REC 0

36 END 0

30 STUN 0

 

6" RUN 0

2" SWIM 0

4 1/2" LEAP 0

Characteristics Cost: 81

 

Cost Skill

8 +1 with All Combat

3 Breakfall 13-

3 Stealth 13-

3 Survival 11-

3 Tactics 11-

3 Teamwork 13-

Skills Cost: 23

 

Cost Talent

5 Rapid Healing

Talents Cost: 5

 

 

Equipment 

 

Bolter: Killing Attack - Ranged 2d6+1, Autofire (3 shots; +1/4), 4 clips of 16 Charges (+1/4) (52 Active Points); OAF (-1)

 

Power Armor, all slots OIF (-1/2)

1)  Armor (8 PD/8 ED) (24 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

2)  +5 STR (5 Active Points); No Figured Characteristics (-1/2), OIF (-1/2)

3)  Life Support  (Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Intense Heat; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Self-Contained Breathing) (19 Active Points); OIF (-1/2)

 

Combat knife: Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 1d6+1 (2 1/2d6 w/STR) (20 Active Points); OAF (-1)

Total Character Cost: 109

[massey]

Genestealers

 

These guys are really fast and deadly, and they come at you in a swarm.  They're not necessarily that durable, though.  Again, very lethal in a heroic campaign.  Not going to hold up against Firewing.

 

 

Val Char Cost

30 STR 20

23 DEX 39

20 CON 20

10 BODY 0

8 INT -2

8 EGO -4

25 PRE 15

2 COM -4

 

12/15 PD 6

12/15 ED 8

5 SPD 17

10 REC 0

40 END 0

35 STUN 0

 

10" RUN 8

2" SWIM 0

6" LEAP 0

 

 

9 Armor (3 PD/3 ED)

37 Killing Attack - Hand-To-Hand 2d6-1 (3d6 w/STR), Armor Piercing (+1/2) (37 Active Points)

5 Extra Limbs  (2)

10 Clinging (normal STR)

5 Nightvision

11 Life Support  (Eating: Character only has to eat once per week; Longevity: 400 Years; Safe in High Pressure; Safe in High Radiation; Safe in Intense Cold; Safe in Low Pressure/Vacuum; Sleeping: Character only has to sleep 8 hours per week)

9 Mind Link , Specific Group of Minds, Number of Minds (x4) (20 Active Points); Only With Others Who Have Mind Link (-1), Does Not Provide Mental Awareness (-1/4)

 

20 +4 with HTH Combat

 

3 Acrobatics 14-

3 Breakfall 14-

3 Security Systems 11-

3 Stealth 14-

3 Survival 11-

3 Tactics 11-

 

3 Simulate Death

 

Total Character Cost: 250

[massey]

Other guys, like Orks, Termagants, and Eldar Guardians, are just going to be like normal humans who carry a special gun.  Orks probably have a Con in the 15-18 range, maybe an extra Body or two.  Termagants might have 8" of Running, but otherwise they're pretty much just a really ugly guy with a weird gun.  And the average Eldar probably has a Dex in the 18 range, with Aspect Warriors getting in the 23 range.

 

Every additional wound someone has, I usually give them an extra 3 Body or so.  So a Space Marine Librarian or an Ork Nob probably has about 15 Body, while a SM Captain has about 18.  Ghazkhull or somebody like that might have in the mid-20s.  But generally, their defenses are going to remain relatively low, so you can actually put Body damage on them.  You get a great roll with a plasma gun and you might kill that Warboss in one shot.

[Scott Baker]

 

I don't know how to attach files, and I don't have any kind of file uploader account thing.  But I did a bunch of 40K writeups several years ago.  If somebody tells me how to attach things without me having to sign up for anything or do a whole lot, I'll post the hero designer files.  As it is I'll just post the text from them.

When you are replying, choose the "More Reply Options" button (right next to Post). That gets you to the full editor where you'll see the option to attach files. You can also use the full editor when editing a post (if you want to attach the HDC files to your previous posts here).

[massey]

When you are replying, choose the "More Reply Options" button (right next to Post). That gets you to the full editor where you'll see the option to attach files. You can also use the full editor when editing a post (if you want to attach the HDC files to your previous posts here).

 

Thanks!

Bloodthirster.hdc

Chaos Space Marine.hdc

Kharn.hdc

Space Marine Chap.hdc

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Terminator.hdc

Space Marine Hero.hdc

Aspect Warrior.hdc

Farseer.hdc

Guardian.hdc

Warlock.hdc

Carnifex.hdc

Gargoyle.hdc

Gaunt.hdc

Genestealer.hdc

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Hive Tyrant.hdc

Hormagaunt.hdc

Lictor.hdc

Warrior.hdc

Zoanthrope.hdc

Nob.hdc

Ork.hdc

Warboss.hdc

[massey]

That's all I ever did with it.  It was a few years ago when I was still interested in 40K.  I didn't mess with vehicles or anything.  And you can tell my interest in certain groups (like Orks) was less than others.  Overall I kept thinking of it as "fantasy in space" when I was gauging how powerful something was, so I looked at Fantasy Hero stuff a lot.