altamaros Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 Hi Great HeroDom Iv'e got a NPC with the following abilities : The NPC is a assassin cyborg (how original !) with a partially electronic memory. He's part of a murder organisation (a bit like I.C.E. in 4ed Dark Champions). Each time the NPC is assigned to a mission, he follows this path : 1 - execute the mission (which is more or less easy to do) 2 - upload his memories of the mission to a central server for verification (and give a proof to the customer). 3 - Erase his memories (electronic and organic) of the event through nanotech so it will be impossible for anyone to probe his mind/memories or confront him with a lie detector. 4 - The NPC will eventually be able to get back his memory later by downloading it from the server. How to build this in Hero terms ? any ideas ? D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 I'd probably just give him a Physical Limitation regarding his computerized memories, myself, and consider him to have the Machine class of mind (considering normal lie detectors to go for Human minds), and consider it a plot device from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 Hmmm, well, you could go ahead and identify the server as an AI or a computer, build that as normal. Then build the robot as a Summoned being, a separate "instance" for each Summon. That might work. This is just off the top of my head though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intrope Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 Actually, steps 3 & 4 sound like a minor mental transform to me. Person -> Person with gaps in his memory (step 3); then define the method of healing to 'restore from backup' (step 4). Here's a write-up: Incriminating Memory Eraser: Minor Transform 1d6 (standard effect: 3 points) (Transform Criminal into Criminal with no memory of a specific crime, Healed by reloading memories with the Eraser), Transform applies to EGO (+1/4), Improved Target Group (Remove memories of any set of events; +1/2), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), BOECV (Mental Defense applies; +1) (32 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Hour, Character May Take No Other Actions, -3 1/4), OAF Immobile Fragile (Large, cumbersome machine; -2 1/4), Concentration (0 DCV; Character is totally unaware of nearby events; -3/4), No Range (-1/2) Active points: 32, Real cost: 4 Note that this write-up is for a big device (like the machines from Total Recall) and it will take hours to perform the erasure (1 hour per 3 EGO of the NPC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altamaros Posted December 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Note : CrosshairCollie; the ability is clearly a bonus so the limitation trick cannot work, sorry but thanks for the help. Zornwill : i don't exactly catch your solution. Originally posted by Intrope Incriminating Memory Eraser: Minor Transform 1d6 (standard effect: 3 points) (Transform Criminal into Criminal with no memory of a specific crime, Healed by reloading memories with the Eraser), Transform applies to EGO (+1/4), Improved Target Group (Remove memories of any set of events; +1/2), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), BOECV (Mental Defense applies; +1) (32 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Hour, Character May Take No Other Actions, -3 1/4), OAF Immobile Fragile (Large, cumbersome machine; -2 1/4), Concentration (0 DCV; Character is totally unaware of nearby events; -3/4), No Range (-1/2) Active points: 32, Real cost: 4 I like this write up but it doesn't really solve the problem. i would like the character to have control over his own memory so the transform would have to apply to himself which is something forbidden by Fred. A shapeshift vs mental sense group doesn't really do the trick either (i have trouble to see how Shapeshift vs Mental Sense Group would interact with Telepathy) Note that this write-up is for a big device (like the machines from Total Recall) and it will take hours to perform the erasure (1 hour per 3 EGO of the NPC). Glad you caught the reference;) ; i had the idea watching a reportage on the brand new californian governor. what it's like to see mixed extracts from "Total Recall", "Eraserhead" and "Terminator" at the same time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightray Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Try Shapeshift vs. Mental Group, Costs END Only To Activate, Major Side Effect (the minor mental transform affects the character, heals as Intrope noted). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intrope Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Originally posted by altamaros I like this write up but it doesn't really solve the problem. i would like the character to have control over his own memory so the transform would have to apply to himself which is something forbidden by Fred. [/b] Whoops! I forgot that transform isn't supposed to be applied to oneself (and then I had to read the whole power description--twice--to find where it said that). OTOH, it's pretty clear that the no-self-transform rule is to prevent transform from being used to gain powers/skills/points, so I'd probably just bend it here and allow this self-effecting transform. Lightray's Shapeshift idea might be better, but you'd need to buy it as Inherent (so that it can't be dispelled); after all, the character doesn't possess the memories any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Originally posted by altamaros Zornwill : i don't exactly catch your solution. Well, the idea WAS that the cyborg assassin is a Summoned being, Summoned by the computer which reads and gets data from it. At each Summoning the cyborg is a new being (which is a bit of hand-waving), so it can have no memory. However, I think you could do it differently even if vaguely on the same lines: 1 - build the cyborg as you want it to be 2 - build an AI for the base, the AI that will read and change the cyborg's memory - build it as any normal AI, whatever capability you want 3 - now, give the AI Telepathy, usable with machine minds; make sure it has enough to read, write, and CHANGE memories - that's a normal 5th property of high "damage" with Telepathy This way the AI can go ahead and alter the cyborg's memories as needed. It will require a trip to the AI, and I think your SFX will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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