L. Marcus Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Re: The Last Word Hoh, yes indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Re: The Last Word I'm a spectroscopist. Light's pretty important. any direct relation to the meaning of life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Re: The Last Word For a spectroscopist -- sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Re: The Last Word any direct relation to the meaning of life? I do not now and hopefully I never have made a claim to have any special insight to the meaning of life. My opinions on that are worth all the hot air they're written on. When you mention light, though, I made my first career out of study and analysis of light in a very literal sense. Draw your own conclusions there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Re: The Last Word Finally well enough. But now I'll spend the weekend at work ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Re: The Last Word Heh. Me too, for part of it; Saturday 8AM to 1:30. There's an event on campus my daughter is going to, so I might as well be here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Re: The Last Word to both of you, have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Re: The Last Word I probably will -- but it won't be restful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Re: The Last Word I'm here now, not yet awake enough to decide if I'm having fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Re: The Last Word Coffe por vouz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Re: The Last Word I'm here now' date=' not yet awake enough to decide if I'm having fun.[/quote'] then you probably aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Re: The Last Word I reckon most of today's science-fiction should be reclassified as "modern pulp"; that is a modern take on the pulp fiction published in magazines during the 20s-40s in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Re: The Last Word How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Re: The Last Word well back in the day, Dick Tracy fought "the bad guys", Tracy being a cop. Nowadays, that same archetypical story is being told as "24" with Jack Bauer, with the "bad guys" being labeled terrorists not "gangsters". Another example: Sanctuary, Warehouse 13, Librarian trilogy to me are all "modern pulp" the earlier to being on the Sci-Fi channel. X-Files to has pulp elements -- mainly that two gov't agents explore the supernatual/unexplained. Can see a Lovecraftian vibe to it (minus the Lovecraft 'monsters'). Then you've got sword 'n' sorcery of Conan which is pulp as well. Star Wars to me is mainly sword'n'sorcery in a space setting, the sword'n'sorcery elements are all there. The Golden Age of Superhero comics is very pulpish in its tones and vibes. Lex Luther originally being a "mad scientist". Torchwood, Carnivale, Jerico, The 4400, Firefly all have a pulpish vibe to me. I'd dare say that the tv show Supernatural could have been appeared in a pulp magazine (not that I've watched it at all). to me it is more about the genres that appeared in the pulp magazines and seeing echoes of those genres and stories in today's media. Dick Tracy / Jack Bauer I reckon being a good example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Re: The Last Word I guess I agree with you, though you seem to be commenting about TV/movies rather than pure-text novels etc. It's very rare for any sort of broadcast-medium story to escape "pulp", unless it's soap operas, which are just pulp of a different odor. The audiovisual formula that is used by the producers these days leaves very little room for anything more than melodrama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Re: The Last Word Mmmm ... Melodrama ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Re: The Last Word Long ago I remember reading that Good vs Evil rapidly became little more than melodrama. Real literature comes from Good vs Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Re: The Last Word If real literature was any good, more people would read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Re: The Last Word Well, it's difficult to get a satisfactory, non-snarky definition of what's literature and what isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Re: The Last Word It's effemereal. Oblivion time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Re: The Last Word The Ephemere I know about are a high-end chocolate product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Re: The Last Word Well, there you are, then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Re: The Last Word Death by Chocolate? Hasn't that one already been copyrighted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Re: The Last Word hours seconds minutes: why "seconds" whatever happened to the "firsts" & "thirds"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Re: The Last Word I guess I agree with you' date=' though you seem to be commenting about TV/movies rather than pure-text novels etc. It's very rare for any sort of broadcast-medium story to escape "pulp", unless it's soap operas, which are just pulp of a different odor. The audiovisual formula that is used by the producers these days leaves very little room for anything more than melodrama.[/quote'] I'd add that it really has to dominate pop culture, and permeate cultural consciousness. I'd say 24 like 24 has, ditto Buffy THe Vampire Slayer (maybe pulp). THis excludes those shows which hasn't permeated cultural consciousness (ie gone mainstream) of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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