Koshka Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Given a setting/period with a strong class system (for example, England pre-WWII), would this be a valid Social Limitation? If so, what value would you give it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 I would consider it to be the same as the minority example given in FREd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 I agree though you might price it at the concealable level if the character can "Put on airs" that fool at least some.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"V" Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Outrage! Conceal ones lower class origins? (engage irony mode) Impossible! Leaving aside such impossibilities as Eliza Doolittle, any such attempt by the lower orders would be doomed to failure. The coarse streak of the working class would show through instantly like manure beneath a rosebush! (disengage irony mode) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmaster Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 With a rather benign class system like 20th century England I would think an advantage for belonging to the upper class would be more appropriate, the upper classes had some advantages compared to lower classes but not really any additional rights (except those unofficial ones money can buy, like good lawyers). I'd use lower class as a disadvantage for situations where the lower classes actually have less legal status (I love my peasants, PULL.... Bam, oooh a little low) or serious restrictions on their day to day rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelleyCM Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Woo-hoo! Another excuse to talk about the Regency! I would work it as a perk, but if the person is REALLY lower class (not only doesn't know which fork to use, but uses his fingers instead) then I think a social disad is in order. Anyway, here are some of the perks I worked up for a game set during Hanoverian England: http://www.mactyre.net/archives/regency/newcharacters.html -Shelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshka Posted May 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 Thanks for the link, Shelley! The character in question is Cockney, so on consideration of the other posts in this thread he's probably not low-class enough for a social limitation -- I'll give him a DF for the accent and leave it at that. Now, if I ever figure out India's caste system well enough to write a character who's part of it .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Carman Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 In the Space: 1889 system, there is a 6-level Social Status progression. Here is a description and my conversion notes. 1 - Lower Class (usually rural poor). 10-pt Social Lim: frequent, slight. 10-pt Destitute. 2 - Working Class (usually urban). 5-pt SocLim: infrequent, slight. 5-pt Poor. 3 - Middle Class 4 - Gentry. More status than Middle Class, but less money (land rich, cash poor). 1-pt Perk: Gentry. 5 - Wealthy Gentry. 2-3-pt Perk: Lower Nobility. Perk: Well-off. 6 - Aristocracy. 5-pt Perk: Aristocracy. Perk: Wealthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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