Dispelling Fires

[Edsel]

According to an example on page 149 of 5ER a Fire Extinguisher is a 10d6 Dispel vs. fire with 12 charges. How many d6 of dispel would a bucket of water be worth? How many d6 would using your foot to stamp out a minor fire be? What about using a blanket to beat out flames? A shovel full of dirt?

 

I am working on converting a spell that is supposed make the subject's fire fighting ability work five times better than normal. I think it is best to do this as a dispel that is limited by the users ability to fight a normal fire. For instance while under this spell each bucket of water you through on a fire will extinguish 5 times as much as normal. If you are beating a fire out with a blanket this spell will cause you do beat out 5 times as much flame as you normally would. Each stomp of your foot would stomp out 5 times as much flame, etc. In order to make this work I have to set dispel values for the firefighting methods listed above.

[Rapier]

Re: Dispelling Fires

 

Somewhere, and it might just be on my hand-me-down-home-grown GM screens, there is a list of how much damage certain types of fires do. I convert that damage to DCs, calculate the cost and apply the Suppress to that.

 

I would say, try and figure out how much of a fire you would expect to put out with a bucket of water and figure the cost backwards.

[Bloodstone]

Re: Dispelling Fires

 

5ER p444-445 might help. If you have Villainy Amok chapter four might be helpful too.

[Erkenfresh]

Re: Dispelling Fires

 

Just buy like 60d6 of dispel fire with the limit "only up to five times the mundane method being used". Then, you can work it out as each situation comes up.

[Edsel]

Re: Dispelling Fires

 

Something like Erkenfresh's suggestion is what I had in mind. I figured that in a Fantasy setting mundane methods of fighting a fire are going to be below what a fire extinguisher will do. I'm going to guess that a bucket of water is the best mundane method that would be available. A bucket would probably do as much dispel as a fire extinguisher in a single PHA (with one charge an a bit of a reload rate) so 60d6 as an upper limit would probably be about right. I'll just need to come up with a rough scale for the numerous lesser methods (shovels of dirt, smothering with blankets, stamping etc.)

[feralucce]

Re: Dispelling Fires

 

here's the question... are you working with realistic fires (a, b, and c type extinguisher) and how big a bucket?

 

if you want similar, I'd run 1-2d6 dispel fire