Kirby

Re: Manned Giant Robot

Tsk, tsk, Bubba Smith, this is the internet - we need links, like this:

 

"Check out the thread Villian Gigamax for details."

 

I can't believe you expected us to look for it ourselves.

how do you make those kind of links

Similar to how you see quotes, but instead of Quote /quote you use url= /ur

It will go: [*url=*http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65873 ]Type what you want here[*/url*]

Just don't use any of the asterisks.

You can do the same for spoilers:

Re: Manned Giant Robot

check out the thread villian gigamax for details on a giant robot

"Check out the thread Villian Gigamax for details."

I can't believe you expected us to look for it ourselves.

Re: Manned Giant Robot

12' beings would be considered giants' date=' yes; 12' [i']robots[/i], on the other

hand, are a tad on the runty side compared to most examples of 'giant' robots

in sci-fi and superhero literature.

Despite the title of the thread, I believe Checkmate was actually looking to build a battle suit, not a robot. A 12' tall battle suit would be giant, in my opinion. YMMV.

Re: Ape Name Needed

Good question, Kirby. I'd already thought of many of the names, since I once played in a campaign for over a year in which the entire party was talking monkeys.

 

So far, I really like the idea of PRIME-8 as an acronym, but like Organ Grinder the best. I'm leaning toward starting him out as "the Big Man" in hushed tones, building up the reputation until the players finally see him face-to-face, realizing that he's a cyborg and a monkey.

Re: Ape Name Needed

Or Incriminape

Detective: That's Incriminaping evidence!

Re: Completely Undetectable

I wonder' date=' are we spending more time trying to justify this than Quesada and the writers did?[/quote']Probably. I can imagination the conversation went something like this:

 

"I've got a cool idea for a major crossover : let's make the skrulls completely undetectable by everyone."

 

"OK."

 

Then maybe later, "Hey, what about these people with special detection abilities?"

 

"We'll make it up as we go along."

 

"And how will they be defeated?"

 

"Only one person will know. Let's see," :flips through old copyrighted names they haven't used but want to keep: "Here we go, 3-D man will save them."

 

"We are so awesome."

 

Re: Less Educated

Hello,

 

For my new character idea for a Teen Champions setting game. The character in this case was trapped in 'the relm of shadows' from the third grade and as such never recieved a proper education. He recently exscaped from their and now is being taken in by the school in order to teach him how to better control his new powers. Unfortuneatly he never finished most of his education and is now enrolled as a standard Freshman. How should I write up a disad to reflect his lack of proper 'school education?"

In the end, it would depend upon what happened to the character in the shadow realm and how far you're willing to go for this niche.

Re: Ape Name Needed

I've working om a cyborg gorilla crimelord' date=' and need a good name.[/quote']This thread is on its fourth page now. Are you going to respond to any of the suggestions or clarify what genre this cyborg, gorilla crimelord is in?

Re: Death of the Jester

The only changes I noticed were that the shooter is a civilian and he shot a corpse and then kicked a corpse. If that's it, then so?

Re: Completely Undetectable

No, it was simply a matter of I don't use the Dr in my games and am not really all that familiar with him.

 

When I saw somone refer to it as a psychological limitation I said to myself "I don't recall him having that".

 

So I took a quick glance at his character sheet (no background info, just his stats), didn't see such a Disadvantage and thus needed clarification, which you provided.

 

Of course, everything may change by the time 6th rolls around...

Re: Your "rule of X" type character building guides?

Various people have "rule of X" type systems where combo of DCs, OCV, Defenses, etc. are given values and combined can't exceed X.

 

What's yours look like?

Add your DC + SPD + Average Def [(PD+ED)/2], + OCV (ECV) + DCV (or ECV, again) + Skill levels. These should equal 60 or less.

A more detailed explanation (and reasoning behind the formula) can be found here.

/bump

I've had to look at this the past two days and it's a mean sucker to find.

Re: Completely Undetectable

So not an actual disadvantage then. Got it.

Of course, if you're sole 'point" is base on semantics, then fine. If you're actually referring to the subject and conversation, then you should (and would) realize that Dr. D. would not use Magic under any circumstance.

Re: Completely Undetectable

Why not? Dr. Doom uses magic' date=' and Dr. Destroyer is just a Doom analog.[/quote']You should probably read up on Dr. Destroyer then.

Re: Completely Undetectable

Because Dr. Destroyer is a ninety year old super scientist who has never used it before' date=' has never shown any aptitude for it, and has psych limits to prevent it.[/quote']

What Psychological Disadvantage would that be exactly?

"[Doctor Destroyer] reserves his particular hatred for... groups like DEMON which rely on magic instead of technology (which he considers foolish and dangerous, since wiardry cannot be controlled or scientifically analyzed)." CKC, p. 9-10

 

Because magic is not his theme. It's not genre for Dr. D. to be using magic.

Re: Completely Undetectable

Well' date=' think about it terms of a campaign: an alien species of dopplegangers who your team has fought a dozen times before suddenly finds a way to make themselves immune to the detection methods that always used to work. The adventure isn't just 'What are they going to do?' but also 'How do we track them?', as well as 'Who can we trust?'. At the end of the adventure, the team has found a way to negate whatever safeguards they used, and everything is honky dory.[/quote']So Dr. Destroyer using magic would be acceptable if it were a new way to beat the PCs? Nope, still lame, in my opinion. And "a new way" would be one way, not "hey, we've discovered how to be completely undetectable to EVERY known way out there, including areas we've never studied before. We're so uber." Just another Marvel lame attempt. And I've been in campaigns where the DM pulled this junk so that "his story" would work better, regardless of every action we took. One such lame fiat was that we couldn't even attack an enemy unless every player was present. Not that we couldn't hit, not that we couldn't damage, but that we couldn't attack.

Re: 3

That's what made me wonder if this was a serious campaign or simply a Monty Python/comedy type. In the end it doesn't matter.

Re: 3

It's a serious campaign with light hearted moments.

Re: 3

Because Lucius wanted to see her sheet. Desiree's character in the Kingdom City campaign

 

3 - ( 3rd Daughter of the Previous Ka's Second-Favorite Concubine )

 

Quotes : "He doesn't want to sleep with me? He must be gay."

 

(about Ist'vatha V'han) "This is the bitch that tried to steal my Master?" *kicks her in the head*

Re: Manned Giant Robot

Which is sort of my point. It took 350 points to make an effective suit' date=' what's left for the pilot?[/quote']I don't think you're opening up your imagination like you usually do. Customize it from there. Simply reducing his Grenade launcher from a 75pt MP to a 60pt MP frees up 19 points. Surely you can do something with that? You don't have to make a clone, simply use it as a foundation.

 

It would be too effective with the vehicle rules. I mean for 70 points I have a character just as powerful as Anklyosaur' date=' and still have a 280 point character. That just doesn't seem fair to me.[/quote']One of the suggestions/advice in TUV is that if you're building a vehicle that has a higher DEX, SPEED, STR, etc. than your character does, then have the character buy extra Dex, Speed, Str with a limitation "only while in [vehicle]. Additionally, the 350 build for 4 Speed Anklyosaur ended up costing 380 points (20 countered with Disads), costing 72, leaving 278. This doesn't include any skills for the person. You could spend 100 points on your own characteristics giving 178 for skills, money, perks, or simply buying multiple vehicles and maybe a base.

 

As a vehicle, it has its own rules (one being, once the vehicle takes Body, powers start to go away) which balance it out. And will your character be in the battle suit and have "instant access" to it when he's in the bank? Out on a date? Sleeping? Watching a movie in the theater?

Re: The Price of Hiring a Villain

From the original post, it reads more of "What would the villain ask for" not necessarily "what does the villain receive." I would think a criminal such as Telios would ask for DNA (that's his area after all) and a pardon/immunity/amnesty, though he'd only expect to receive at the best immunity from the crimes he admits to, which puts him in the double-edge "If I admit to something they know nothing about, what will they discover?" crossed with "If I don't admit this and they find out about it" quandry. Considering the heroes/authorities had to find a way of contacting this villain once, then they have the means in place to finding him in the future.

That's my opinion of it. YMMV.

Re: Manned Giant Robot

Yeah' date=' I guess he should be 20' tall, but the point is really moot. At 350 points when I trying to make the pilot AND the robot worthwhile, you really just make both worthless. Thanks everyone for the help.[/quote']Not really. Take a look at either Armadillo or Anklyosaur. They're both 350 point suits. Then just adjust whichever one looks like what you're going for to suit your need, if you want it a Focus or OiHID.

 

I've built Anklyosaur as a vehicle and that leaves plenty of points available for a skilled normal character.

Re: Manned Giant Robot

This 'bot's only 12' tall? This sounds more like a battlesuit than an actual giant

robot.

Re: Completely Undetectable

While I agree an entire race having this kind of thing is going beyond cheese' date=' a villain team or robot (Mechanon?) purpose-designed by a master villain to fight the Champions wouldn't necessarily be cheesy at all. It could be an attempt by the GM to make the Champions learn some new tricks or try some unusual tactics to beat the new opponents instead of falling back on their same-old tried and true "unusual" attacks. If you win every fight using the same few attacks, sooner or later someone is going to (quite reasonably) come up with counters to those attacks.[/quote']That's why I stated "If you have a mentalist fight a robot, that's one thing; it happens," and "One person having this as a schtick is genre."

 

An individual is genre. (That's how Booster Gold "earned" his way into the Justice League before it went International.) An entire organization/species: lame.

Re: The Price of Hiring a Villain

It's not WWYCD' date=' but more like What Would the NPC Do?[/quote']If this is Telios, I would think he would either want A) DNA from the supers (or some other prominent entities) involved or Immunity from any crimes he committed that happened prior to "today."